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1957 Gottlieb Flag-Ship woodrail project

By Rodin

7 years ago



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#1 7 years ago

Hi guys!

SO...I found this Gottlieb woodrail on a dutch Marketplace, and since this is my first pinball restoration project I thought it would be wise to enter a forum where there are loads of people with loads of knowledge!
I posted something last week and got some help already!
I'll try to document the process as often as possible.
Here are some pics from when I picked it up..its' in a bad state....but that's oke.
Also...I don't think these models came with wooden legs.

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#2 7 years ago

So far I stripped and cleaned the playfield. Removed all electrics from the underside for cleaning and checking of the inserts.
I took out the electrics from the cabinet and stripped the board from everything including transformer. In the Netherlands we use 230 volts excusively, so I might get a replacement for that. The mounting board has been cleaned and sanded. I'm not sure but I think it would be nice to paint the underside of the playfield and inside of the cabinet with a silvery greyish color. Just so it looks proper. What do you guys think?

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#3 7 years ago

Thanks for starting your restoration thread here. I will be following closely, as I would love to one day have a "wood Rails" machine.
As far as the inside color, I am not an expert with Wood Rails pinballs, and thus you should ask the specialists on the forum (EM ).
For the Electro-Mechanical machines, white or a light beige/off white/yellowish color is very convenient to provide enough light to see all these delicate switches and relays.

I am impressed by your courage to remove all the electric components of the main board. I hope you took enough pictures and understand what each relay is doing. Electro-Mechanical machines usually have a label next to each relay, that indicates its function. It may be worthwhile doing the same here and sticking some labels on the electric board.

For the main transformer, it may already have been turned into European voltages. Otherwise, depending on the level of authenticity you are trying to achieve, you could either mount an internal additional transformer to reduce the AC voltage from 230VAC down to 110VAC or use an external converter if you wish to keep the machine in its original state.

Backglass: I would triple thick it before attempting any restoration.

Playfield: it looks gorgeous after cleaning.

Plastics: Novus 2 followed by Novus 1 should clean them. Afterwards, I would try to unwarp them with a very carefully controlled temperature of your oven, on a very flat baking sheet. Practice on other plastics before attempting on these rare ones.

Exciting stuff. Keep us posted.

Yves

#4 7 years ago

Exciting stuff. Keep us posted.
Yves

Thanks Yves!
I'm still not sure if I should paint the inside. A part of me likes it original.

It was a challenge to remove all electrics, but it's the only way to clean the entire system. I'm glad I did though. (I can be a real adrian monk sometimes....lol ).

The original transformer was in there as well as a 230-110 one. My thought was, why put two in there? It seems logical to just use one. I don't know....we'll see....

Great tips on the plastics, backglass and playfield! Thank you so much!

I'm gonna tinker some more tonight. Can't wait..

Regards

Rodin

3 weeks later
#5 7 years ago

The plastics prove to be pretty difficult to straighten out. At least I got some good scans out of them already. The cabinet is completely stripped and ready for sanding, gluing etc. At first I thought I would keep the original paint. But last week somebody offered me a substantial amount of money for this machine if it was competely restored. Apparently it's very rare. I know there aren't a lot around of these woodrails. But I noticed something else on mine. The playfield has different graphics from the Flag-ships that I've seen around. Maybe I could learn more from the serial number, but I don't know anything on that subject. I haven't decided to sell it though. I like it very much. Not because it's rare, but because there aren't a lot to be found. And I put so much into it already. We'll see.

#6 7 years ago

"Not because it's rare, but because there aren't a lot to be found."

That was pretty redundant to say the least...lol
What I mean is I don't care if it's a rare collector's item. I just want a beautiful looking woodrail.

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