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1952 Williams Twenty Grand play field question

By DCRand

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

Picked up a 1952 Twenty Grand. The play field was stripped by the previous owner. I just cleaned the PF with Naptha and a microfiber cloth. Someone has done pretty sketchy touch ups. There is no clear coat, and I am concerned about harming the original paint trying to strip bad touch up. Could use some advice. I have done about a dozen PF touch ups, but all on late 60's to late 70's games. Is it worth trying to strip or sand the touch up's off? Including the very rough touch ups around the two pop bumpers. Or is this a game I should just clean as well as possible, then just wax it as is?

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#2 4 years ago

So to partly answer my own question. Did second round of cleaning w Novus 2. It took off some of the black or dark smudge marks, and of course polished the paint somewhat. But not sure how much more aggressively I should clean. Also pulled the pop bumpers. Pretty certain going to sand the old yellow paint off and airbrush in new yellow.

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#3 4 years ago
#4 4 years ago

Oh Man...that's too bad. Hard to say what to do...you're the best judge since you've got the game in person. But since the BG is faded, maybe just get the PF as level(less bumpy) as possible with sanding and/or touchups of your own...or just wax it and play it after that. Hard to see CCing it once smooth because why lock in the poor touch-ups?

If in the process of leveling the bumpy parts you may decide to go a different direction if the touchups come off easily. The nice thing is you don't have to worry about ruining anything too badly...it's already rough.

I did a Rack-a-Ball many years ago that someone had used a brush on varnish of some sort that stuck to their crappy touch-ups better than the PF, so I was able to scrape it all off and redo it. I nicked the original art here and there, but was needing to re-touch it anyways, so I didn't care. You don't have that exact situation, but maybe try magic eraser or something more aggressive than what you've already used in a out-of-the-way area...it might take it right off.

Here's that Rack-a-Ball: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cgt1ohsdPaqJKX6U8

#5 4 years ago

Thanks, that is along the lines of what I was thinking. Took one more pic this morning that shows how rough the bottom is above the “push” out holes. Not sure if I have the skill or desire to sand this, then fill and level it then do the extensive touching up.

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#6 4 years ago

They actually did a fairly good job matching the colors...the bumpy finish is a drag though. I like the sand it smoother or just try to level those touch-ups off somehow method more and more. But I also see some new wear spots since they did that work...which is of course what happens when you don't clear-coat after touch-ups...and sometimes still does.

Funny how they just ignored the text in the wear areas...

#7 4 years ago

Yep really not sure how far going to take this. Started working w sand paper and alcohol on the really bad pop rings. Will see how that goes then decide on bottom areas.

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