(Topic ID: 90542)

1950 Bank-A-Ball - Restore?


By shimoda

5 years ago



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#1 5 years ago

So I rescued this machine from a hot Georgia attic where it sat for probably 40+years. The man I got it from remembered playing it as a kid. Brought it home and sat it on it's back for a few months in my shop next to a project Big Ben (Williams 75 EM) that needs a new cabinet and for which the score motor won't stop running (another time).

I was planning to hang the playfield as wall art with its nice printed apron but decided to postpone that as the thread had a few 'restore' or 'don't part' threads. I accidently broke one arm of one of the motors in the back, but figure that can be repaired (though now I need to find where I put the piece). I plugged it in and nothing, so I'll have to start with the basics. I had a Niagara way back 14 years ago or so that I got at an auction and did my best to restore but it is long gone, great looking and fun machine. Not so much into a playfield that is literally just open space, but I'll consider getting her running. I'll post pics in the next day or so.

Looking for thoughts on restoring, perhaps offers for purchase or trade, schematic info, etc. Would love it if someone that owned one of these could help out as well. Turret shooter so an interesting concept that fits the open theme of billiards quite well really.

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#2 5 years ago

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#3 5 years ago

reserved for pics

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#4 5 years ago

So I posted a possible part this game out thread and several people responded with don't do it responses. I changed my mind and thought I'd start this thread and silence. Maybe I should part it out after all. The Playfield/Apron would make great wall art after all. Can I get more thoughts? If anyone wants to make an offer on the whole game, I can bring it to the Atlanta Expo Flea market and do a 'parking lot' deal.

#5 5 years ago

I think it would be shame to part out. It is a super cool game and if closer I'd definitely make an offer. I am a bit disappointed to see neither the plastics nor back glass have been reproduced. Even still, it is a worthy candidate for restoration. The glass and plastics could be made with some creativity and the rest looks fairly simple. At only 816 made, parting it for wall art would be bordering on criminal.

#6 5 years ago

"Minors not premitted to play this game" That is so cool! Cool playfield as well. I hope you keep it going sir. Good luck! (I have no experience fixing up machines. I am new to this hobby, but I am *almost* always for preserving the games.

#7 5 years ago

Please do not part it out. Hopefully someone within driving distance will want it. I think that game is one of the more desirable woodrails out there. Good luck!

#8 5 years ago

I have one of these. I've been slowly getting it back to playable condition over the last year. I've been too lazy to start a restoration thread, but this might motivate me to finally do it. Your playfield is in better shape than mine, my backglass is nicer but my plastics are also destroyed. I'll post some pics in a few days.

#9 5 years ago
Quoted from geet84:

I have one of these. I've been slowly getting it back to playable condition over the last year. I've been too lazy to start a restoration thread, but this might motivate me to finally do it. Your playfield is in better shape than mine, my backglass is nicer but my plastics are also destroyed. I'll post some pics in a few days.

That would be great. I accidentally broke one piece of the switch arm in the backbox, but have it that it could be repaired. Otherwise it seems that a few wires have broken off mounts here and there and I have no idea where they'd go. Playfield seems to be in pretty good shape. I haven't thought about cleaning it yet as I'm worried to remove any paint/ink. When plugged in it won't show any signs of getting power so I'm going to have to go slowly to see if the transformer even works. I do think it would be nice to have restored, and would be a nice looking machine.

Wish I hadn't sold that Niagara all those years ago...

#10 5 years ago

Steve Fury project perhaps?

#11 5 years ago

DON'T PART IT OUT!! One of the truly great early woodrails, not just from an art and historical standpoint, but a excellent playing game as well. Mine has a decent backglass, and I was lucky to get what I believe is the last set of repro plastics that were done in a very small batch, but yours looks to actually have a better playfield than mine.

Definitely worth making the effort to bring it back to life, or if it's too big a project for you, pass it on to someone willing to take it on, it is a major endeavor to be sure.

#12 5 years ago

That game is a piece of history. Please keep it as intact as possible. If you bring it to the next show, someone will surely buy it. Wish i was closer and had less projects. I have a '50 "Joker" that needs love.

#13 5 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Steve Fury project perhaps?

< nodding head yes >

not sure how far steve is away from it, but that looks to be right up his alley....

#14 5 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

< nodding head yes >
not sure how far steve is away from it, but that looks to be right up his alley....

IIRC, Steve is in Atlanta. If the game is going to the Atlanta Expo, then.... viola!

#15 5 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

IIRC, Steve is in Atlanta. If the game is going to the Atlanta Expo, then.... viola!

Is that the same as the Southern Fried Gameroon Expo in Atlanta?

#16 5 years ago

Yep, one in the same.

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#17 5 years ago

Bank-A-Ball has been sold.

#18 5 years ago
Quoted from shimoda:

Bank-A-Ball has been sold.

Glad it found a home..........

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#19 4 years ago

I bought this project game from Shimoda in June/July 2014. Last night, this phoenix arose from the ashes. I'm pleased to post that it's a living and breathing woodrail again. She's humming, ringing and singing and living a far better life than languishing in a hot attic.

I'm still improving the cosmetic condition of the playfield (e.g. kick-out hole bases and new plastics not yet installed). Also, I'm in the process of touching up the cabinet. Actually, I'm awaiting the arrival of a new repro plastic set, which also includes the turret shooter plastic. The repro backglass is a Gary Conway translite, wedged between 2 sheets of tempered glass.

When the restoration is complete, I plan to post more photos. Meanwhile, my family is enjoying this unusual game with extraordinary Roy Parker art.
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#20 4 years ago

Such a beautiful game! Nice save.

#21 4 years ago
Quoted from ZNET:

I bought this project game from Shimoda

Tremendous job!

#22 4 years ago

Looks great!

#23 4 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Such a beautiful game! Nice save.

Quoted from wayout440:

Tremendous job!

Quoted from PhilC:

Looks great!

Yep

#24 4 years ago

Way to go ZNET!

#25 4 years ago

Wow ZNET, that looks great! Looks like a shooter's game for sure and the art, well, speaks for itself. I really loved the screened apron on that. Definitely glad it was saved, the translite looks pretty nice as well. Not sure where you found a repro plastic set as I could not but glad of it and will be looking for pics of it.

#26 4 years ago

Now that's a before and after shot! Looks so nice with clean white rubbers compared to those sad attic jobs that it had before.

#27 4 years ago

Sweet! Sweet! Sweet! Did I say Schweet?

#28 4 years ago

Wow - that is a nice job. Way to go.

Just wondering - how do you score the 8-ball?

#29 4 years ago

No game deserves to be destroyed. I don't care how rough and unobtainable parts are. No game deserves to be a pile of parts.

This one looks like an excellent restore project!

#30 4 years ago

just awesome

--Jeff

#31 4 years ago
Quoted from heatwave:

Wow - that is a nice job. Way to go.
Just wondering - how do you score the 8-ball?

The contact at the top center of the playfield (marked "special") scores the 8 ball and a replay. Landing in a kick-out hole "pocket," when lit, scores multiple replays. The kick-out holes illuminate in random couplets by striking all of the targets.

Thanks to fellow pinsiders for the comments on this ongoing restoration effort. Also, thanks to shimoda for his patience in awaiting my shipper, who rescheduled the pick-up a couple of times. Here's another photo of this nifty game:
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#32 4 years ago

Looks great!!!

#33 4 years ago

Congrats ZNET on taking on the project and bringing it along in such a positive, stunning fashion. That machine has found a fine home at long last

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#34 1 year ago

Well, I have resurrected this old thread to post updated photos of this Bank-A-Ball restoration project. While the game is more complete than when I last posted 3 years ago and, like a phoenix, it has risen from the proverbial ashes of its original state, it requires some cabinet touch-ups. Most importantly, it's functioning at 100% and the gameplay is unlike virtually any other woodrail. In 2016, fellow pinsider, Oldcarz, posted a very nice video of his beautiful Bank-A-Ball, with the help of Pinrescue, as follows:

Last year, a reporter included my game room in a news article. He was enthralled with Bank-A-Ball and featured the backglass in the article, as depicted below. In my opinion, 1950 Gottlieb Bank-A-Ball successfully replicates the feel of billiards gameplay in a way that other billiards/pool themed games do not. It is quite a unique and unpredictable game in my line-up and I'm glad that I undertook this somewhat daunting project.

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#35 1 year ago

One of the most beautiful pins ever turned out by Gottlieb.
Damn, has anyone ever told you that you resemble Hugh Hefner?

#36 1 year ago

Bruce, thanks for the call out and acknowledgement of the video of (our) games. Your resto looks great and I can state that it looks like a different machine from when I had seen it person a few years back.

Great job and best of luck with it!
Joel

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