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1950 Bally Turf King One Ball Horse Race Game

By bingopodcast

3 years ago

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    #1 3 years ago

    I recently made a cross-country trip to pick up a 1950 Bally Turf King.

    My oldest daughter has recently gotten very interested in horses, and I thought I could use this as a good way to teach her about EM troubleshooting, soldering, cleaning, logic, etc.

    We're most of the way done, but so far, so good!

    This will be less a restoration than a few cool photos and a way for folks to share in the journey.

    #2 3 years ago

    The first challenge is how to move the game. One Ball games have floor-length cabinets and are quite heavy indeed.

    So, how do you do it?

    First, take the backbox off. To do this you have to remove the four head bolts, remove the jones plugs, and push the female jones plugs into the neck of the cab.
    Second, open the front door. Disconnect the jones plugs, then pull the bottom board forward.
    Third, pull the bottom board all the way out (carefully) and set aside.
    Fourth, remove the wingnuts holding the lockbar on.
    Fifth, remove the playfield glass/siderails/footrail (all one piece on this machine).
    Lastly, unscrew the playfield and remove the playfield from the game.

    Now, the cabinet is light enough to move easily!

    Here's a photo of my new friend Steve and his son. Steve hung onto the game for a few months for me while I figured out how I was going to do this. Steve's son was a huge help, and both are super nice guys.


    And a photo of me and Steve with the backglass. That game has great artwork!


    #3 3 years ago

    Now, on the way back to the hotel, I stopped at a gas station, and found some bubblegum cigarettes. Haven't seen those since I was a kid.

    Thematically appropriate.

    And... I made it home with the family.


    #4 3 years ago

    Now, one of the goals was to teach my older daughter how to work on machines. We got started the next day.


    "Wow, the backglass is on a hinge!"

    The bulbs shown in the backbox are run at 17V. This means that you cannot replace the bulbs with 6V 55s, 44s, or 47s.


    Here we ran into trouble. The screws holding the stepper spiders on were very very tight. Rather than continue to attempt to remove and potentially damage it, I decided to teach her how to scrub the rivets. Thankfully she has smaller hands than I do.


    Then we needed to clean the Jones Plugs. Here she carefully scrubs them. The plugs themselves are very fragile-feeling. I have a game from the 40s that has similarly dried out or brittle plugs, so she had to be pretty careful. Final result is nice shiny plugs, though!


    Time to install.


    And on the door. Check out the number of games recorded on the door! Amazing. This was quite the earner.

    #5 3 years ago

    Some interesting shots:


    The backboard is on a chain, unlike later bingo machines, which typically fold all the way over. Due to limited space I had to unscrew the chain and fold it down to look into an interesting issue.


    This is a notice that sits behind a removable plate holding all the female Jones Plugs. Interestingly, this is very similar to Gottlieb games, but instead of floating in space, there's actually a place to latch them in!

    #6 3 years ago

    Time to clean:


    Now, my younger daughter REALLY wanted to help her older sister and I clean the playfield.


    I ended up helping with the upper areas since they are too small to reach, even with a stool.

    #7 3 years ago

    Once clean, it was time to test!


    #8 3 years ago

    This game is crazy fun - and the gameplay is totally unlike a bingo! Caps are cleaned and back on, and I need to print off some new SI cards.

    The above is without the glass on - these games are easier to test without the lockbar installed due to their construction.

    #9 3 years ago

    Forgot to mention - she cleaned and tested all the 17V bulbs.

    Sockets were not corroded at all, which is pretty unusual for games that I get.

    If you'd like to hear more about the pickup and work on the game, see episodes 301 - 304 of For Amusement Only (http://foramusementonly.libsyn.com)

    #10 3 years ago

    So cool to see this father daughter restore! Thanks for sharing. Looks like a great pick-up. What are you guys tackling next???

    #11 3 years ago

    Great to see the kiddies getting involved. My son does what he can to help out and loves being part of the process...but at three years old, "helping" means fetching tools, counting burnt out light bulbs and a whole lot of play-testing. He seems to enjoy it though, and he'll be rebuilding flippers and doing playfield swaps before I know it.

    Also great to see that your daughter has the gift of podcast gab like her old man. The episode with your daughter really highlights her enthusiasm for fixing things with dad...and for horses.

    #12 3 years ago
    Quoted from spiroagnew:

    The episode with your daughter really highlights her enthusiasm for fixing things with dad...and for horses.

    She does love them - this is about as close as she'll get though! She's a pretty good student. Her lesson in soldering was a set of wires under the bottom board that broke. Very difficult and she did it quite well! I did not teach her to make the joints yet (Western Union, pigtail, etc). But that'll be next when I find the broken wire preventing the GI from lighting on the playfield.

    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    What are you guys tackling next???

    Oddly, probably a Space Invaders upright arcade...?!

    #13 3 years ago

    Good find Nick...I miss mine.


    #14 3 years ago

    Thanks Vic! What a beautiful row! Payout and non-payout versions side-by-side.

    #15 3 years ago

    My daughter asked if we could work on the Turf King tonight! I've got to show her how to clean the search discs (common rivets are covered in grease and will not light some horse selections consistently), and the #4 horse relay on the bottom board is sticky (dried grease), so will get the alcohol and q-tip action (and a dab of new grease).

    We have a problem with the 6V lamps. All of the 6V lamps test ok, but there is no power to any of them.

    Transformer is generating 6V, and I've done some simple continuity checks between the transformer and the anti-cheat relay (without Ava's knowledge). I'll show her the schematic tonight if there's time after cleaning.

    My guess is that one of the funky Jones Plugs has backed out or has a broken wire under the female side. Unfortunately, this is in the back of the head... thankfully my daughter can squeeze back there!

    #16 3 years ago

    If they are asking to help, there is no chance of being accused of pushing too hard. Fantastic!

    In other news, my son sneezed on a playfield I was touching up with acrylics while standing over me watching. One of those wet kid sneezes...

    #17 3 years ago

    Nice! You're a brave person to do touchups while the kids are awake.

    At least it's acrylic!

    #18 3 years ago

    Ava learned how to read simple circuits in the schematic last night. We spent most of the evening going over how to determine what part of the circuit could be bad, then applied it to the lack of playfield GI.

    The GI issue, as is usually the case with a Bally, came down to a bad fuse holder. The holder has been tweaked to work (for now), but needs to be replaced.

    Now, there are a couple minor cleaning things to do, and fixing the occasional erratic replay count.

    #19 3 years ago

    Another fun FAO interview with Ava. I like those numbers on the Bally machines. "Trillions!!!" No wonder you have such an easy time finding them.

    Best of luck with the rest of the restoration and more luck securing another guest spot on the "For Ava Only - EM Bingo and Horsies Podcast."

    #20 3 years ago

    She's booked months in advance. I'll keep asking.

    #21 3 years ago

    She asked this morning if we could work tonight, too. I'll have to see if she's still interested when I get home from an errand. I think the next thing will be to start on the cosmetics of the lockbar to get that beast back in place so that she can playtest the heck out of it. (Would have said 'snot', but figured the wounds were still fresh for spiroagnew).

    It has sat and absorbed much palm sweat. It will need to be sanded as well because someone carved letters in front of the buttons, which already have symbols on them. I am going to attempt to have Ava do this without removing the buttons... then I'm going to have her repaint the button lettering in red.

    I'll likely do the siderails since they will require some dedicated scrubbing with steel wool... I suspect she'll lose interest before seeing enough progress. May also require more brute strength than she has? Remains to be seen.

    After that, the glass will need to be cleaned, and the buttons painted with a protective coat to attempt to keep the remaining chrome on them.

    I am really, really bad at taking pictures, but this thread is making me seriously think about it as I go. So I'll even likely have some photos of this part!!!

    #22 3 years ago

    OK, well, that didn't happen. Didn't get home till close to bedtime. Tomorrow, though! After chores!

    #23 3 years ago

    Oh boy, lots of action here today. We spent today working on the glass now that the playfield had been ruled out as a problem for the GI.

    Reminder that the glass is one that is combined into the lockbar and siderails. Very big and heavy and hard to move.

    I set up some sawhorses and took it out to the deck.

    Here you can see some of the condition. There were multiple cigarette burns (people set their lit cigarettes pointing out on the lockbar. It burns down and burns into the wood).

    There were also some carvings in front of each button. Shorthand for people who don't feel like reading symbols or score/instruction cards.

    So the next step was teaching her how to sand.

    #24 3 years ago


    I decided to have her sand the lacquer and stain off the wood, to bring it down to a consistent color. From here we will apply a new stain to create a unified color. In the first glass image, you can see where water was dripping into the game and had discolored and rusted some parts. The buttons were freely moving, but had rusted badly underneath. Thankfully they did not rust on top.


    Oh! Here's one with the water damage evident.


    Workin' on the other side. Remember, since we sanded the lockbar we also have to sand any other exposed wood. Luckily this is the only other exposed wood that is not painted anywhere on the machine.


    Sanded and then polished the metal - check that out! You have to be extremely careful polishing a bingo instruction plate or these selection plates as the red ink will wipe right off. Much was already missing from oils on hands. Now, plates are shiny and Ava has a good base to repaint the red.

    #25 3 years ago

    Ava had me reassemble the glass after we polished the siderails and cleaned the glass, then we played a good thirty or forty games on it! Spotting discs need cleaning. Then all should be well!

    #26 3 years ago

    Oh, we also have some aftermarket paint on the cab to remove and some touch-up to do, possibly. Then stain the exposed wood and apply a lacquer.

    #27 3 years ago
    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    Reminder that the glass is one that is combined into the lockbar and siderails.

    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    So the next step was teaching her how to sand.

    Looks like she was gettin' after it! Nice work guys! Great to see some process pics.

    #28 3 years ago


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    #29 3 years ago

    OK, lots to discuss - been a while since I posted.

    Where we left off, Ava and I were beginning the process of cosmetic restoration.

    She had sanded the lockbar, and we were going to stain and so forth. Well, while I thought for a moment and waited until the next time I had to go to the hardware store, Ava and I began on paint removal.

    The front and sides of the game had had the beautiful red color painted over. Using a magic eraser, lots of elbow grease and a paint remover in a spray bottle (sprayed directly onto the sponge), the game started to reveal what was underneath.


    I looked very closely at the gold paint on the front door and noticed that I could see a bit of the underlying design. After a bit of scrubbing -


    And after we exhausted the supply of magic erasers:


    Now, what I noticed, and what you may as well - there are just a couple of scraped out sections in the black. The red appears to have fared a bit worse (no more pics yet), but I'm curious why the op didn't just paint it red? Mysteries.

    #30 3 years ago

    We take lots of breaks to play the game. Ava likes playing partners and we help egg each other on to get the right numbers.

    Here's one of my patented shaky cam videos - 14 seconds of playing:


    She has been dying to show it off to everyone that comes in the house. She whips out the schematic and starts showing people how various circuits work, tells them how she tests lamps, etc. Girl after my own heart.

    #31 3 years ago

    So you may notice from the first pic two posts above - there are several gouges and burns on the lockbar. We sanded it nice and smooth, but at this point, it was time to fill the voids.


    If you can believe it, I actually bought gloves! And let her use a whole pair!

    She is pictured there adding in a rough, stainable filler. She didn't want to get it totally perfect, she just wanted some of the larger holes to be less noticeable when playing the game.

    Last night, we sanded the filler flush with the surface, then prepped for staining.

    Can't find my pic right now (not unusual), but despite lots of cautioning, some areas went on too thick. First coat of stain was down and looked pretty good! A darker mahogany style stain, matched the age and overall patina of the game. Probably way too dark for what came from the factory.

    Last night, I couldn't help myself, so I went downstairs and took the lock off the door. I want to show her how the tumblers work and have her remove the pins so that we can open it with anything (don't have the key, too cheap to buy a lock).

    ...as I stood up, I pushed on the lock bar to help me up... left a nice big handprint. Whoops. Now we need to sand it out and start over. Didn't have the heart to tell her this morning.

    #32 3 years ago

    Such a cool daddy/daughter resto project. Thanks for keeping us updated...and WITH PICTURES!!! ...THAT ARE IN FOCUS!!! Really nice work so far. You know, except for that whole hand-print thing. (Ava's gonna scalp you.)

    #33 3 years ago

    I've got one of these things sitting in the corner of my studio. It's the one game "on legs" that's not working yet, I guess that "nuclear core" you slide out of the cabinet has intimidated me, but this post is encouraging me to attack it. Thanks for the updates!

    #34 3 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:


    Don't get used to it.

    Quoted from MrArt2u:

    "nuclear core" you slide out of the cabinet has intimidated me

    The nice thing is that it is very well engineered, and the mechanical units are very easy to clean. Turf King does have a few mechanical parts in the back of the head, so on the day we set it up, I had Ava clean those units first.

    The biggest problem I have really found (aside from the typically Bally fuse holder problem) is that the trunk of wires running to the back had been opened and several wires had been cut. Not sure how it was opened, but the wires were able to rub as the tray slid back and forth over time (or maybe it was all us) and we found a total of four broken wires. Gonna get some unscented dental floss and teach Ava how to tie it back up (eventually).

    #35 3 years ago

    So much going on... lots to update!

    So, first, I 'fessed up to putting the big handprint on the lockbar. Ava was not pleased.

    I sanded it out again, then we tried staining it one more time. It turned out pretty badly, actually. So once it was finished, Ava knew right away - sand it again, Dad. *sigh*

    So I sanded it once more (Ava didn't help because she thought it was too cold outside - she was right). This time Ava carefully wiped excess stain away immediately with a lint-free shop towel.


    It turned out much, much better. At this point, we let the stain dry for a while.

    I let Ava know that she had some mail! A friend sent over some Score/Instruction cards for Turf King! Ava was very excited to receive this package, and had a lot of fun going through it to find the best examples as well as the correct ones for the game as we have it set up.


    I saw Thomas was creepily looking on in the background, and Sophie removed him between pictures.


    Next, while still waiting, I wanted to teach Ava how to pull apart the lock tumblers/pins, so I brought her over to the machine (glass uninstalled), where I had had the mishap a few nights prior.

    I explain to her the process of what needs to be done, she pics up the lock, turns it upside down, and this happens:


    I've pulled apart lots of locks to make them 'keyless', and this has never happened to me. I couldn't stop laughing. Ava didn't understand.

    At this point, Ava shellac'ed the lockbar. Single coat, looks beautiful. Glossy, but not too glossy. She may put another coat on tonight.

    Sophie wanted to help. I taught her how to polish metal, and she went to town on the lock surround that sits on the front door.


    Other than that, Ava has been showing everyone that walks through our door the game, and shows them how to play and win. It's pretty cool to watch her school people on playing the machine, especially when they have trouble making a winner and she proceeds to win 48 replays or so.

    #36 3 years ago

    Spent yesterday evening working on the siderails. Poor Turf King had some water damage issues, as you've seen from the lockbar, but more than that, it's had years and years of folks playing the game. The oils from their hands eventually broke down the plating on the siderails in spots and required a bit of fixing. Now on this game, I suspect water damage. The breakdown of the plating is only on the right-hand side.

    What is common, once an area of plate wears away - you're left with a sharp or uncomfortable rough spot where your hand travels or sits.

    I was doing a bit of research, and came across a system called 'plug and plate', which was both cheap and appeared to do the small amount of plating that we needed for this game. I didn't want to disassemble the siderails and mail 'em out somewhere, waiting for a long while for something that ultimately is just a minor cosmetic upgrade. Shipping one way on the rails probably would have been more than the kit cost ($35).

    So...! Ava ended up working with me. First, we sanded away the rusty spots (as much as we thought necessary), revealing the bare metal beneath. If we were doing a total restoration, we'd take the siderails off and scrape them totally clean.


    From there, we cleaned and polished the metal underneath. The more prep work, the better your plating can hold. Again, the primary aim is not to make it perfect, just to make it better.

    After a single coat (no polish)


    After this, it was bedtime for some of us. I stayed up and polished the newly plated areas. Though the second pic doesn't look like much (before polish), you'll have to know that in person, this rail feels very nice. Before it was sharp and uncomfortable to hold. Ava now knows a (very) little about the electro-chemical process involved with plating.

    Tonight we probably won't work on the game, but we need to finish removing the gold paint, clean the cabinet, repaint the apron(?) then Ava needs to decide on touch-ups to the cab. Aside from this, we do still have some cleaning of the shelf units to do before it is truly 100%.

    I may take a look at the apron to see what's involved in removal. Normally on the bingos they are nailed into place. Not sure on the one balls.

    #37 3 years ago

    Took a look at lunch. Appears to be above-playfield screws on the left, might be under-playfield screws or nails on the right.

    Center screw is completely rusted (of course). Slotted so I managed to strip it pretty badly with all my Herculean strength.

    So... next will be taking a rubber band and trying to make a better connection with the driver/slot or ... something else.

    I am thinking of sanding and repainting the apron, which is metal, with a spray brown. It has rusted fairly significantly. Or rather, I am thinking of having Ava do that.

    #38 3 years ago

    Turned out to be something else. I was able to get it out with a pair of strong pliers. I am going to take the apron to the store to find a good spray match.



    #39 3 years ago

    What's that?

    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    ...I managed to strip it pretty badly...

    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    ...next will be taking a rubber band and trying to make a better connection with the driver/slot

    This suggestion of yours saved me a time or so on my Swinger resto. Great tip!

    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    I am thinking of...repainting the apron...a spray brown.

    Really? Is brown stock or are you trying to match the color of rust? I'd suspect white as the original color, but I'm not real hep to the flipperless wonders. A brown apron, though...huh.

    #40 3 years ago

    Brown is stock! Pretty cool looking, actually (or it will be once sanded and painted).

    The 'shelf unit' is just my fancy name for the center shelf that pulls out with all the mechanisms.

    I spoke with Ava about the apron and told her the plan - she was on board. Wanted to paint last night... ... ...

    Picking up paint tonight.

    #41 3 years ago

    Coming along nicely, Nick. Glad to see Ava's enthusiasm hasn't dissipated!

    #42 3 years ago

    Thanks! Paint obtained at lunch. Had to forego my normal bingo session. The sacrifices we make...

    #43 3 years ago

    We've done a lot of Turf King work this weekend:

    After the apron was color-matched (underside was not faded or otherwise marred - it was a glossy brown - closest match was Rustoleum Gloss Espresso Brown), it was time to sand out the worst of the rust and grime to make a nice surface for the paint to adhere to.


    Coarse sanding sponge - approx 150 - used to knock off the worst of the rust.


    Then she used a 400 grit sandpaper to make a smoother surface and knock out some of the scratches.


    Next, it was mask time.




    One coat done (out of two).


    Apron installation.


    Playfield complete with new S/I cards.

    Afterwards, we worked on removing more of the gold paint. Ava has decided that she wants to fill and touch up the paint that is missing from the black and red areas. Her mother will likely have to weigh in on the color (since I am terrible at that), though perhaps Ava will be the new color-matcher in the household.

    I am excited that the playfield is basically done - I may order some side springs for it, as new springs do liven up any playfield - but that'll be some time in the future.

    Next, we have the cabinet to clean, prep and touch up, then minor electro-mechanical cleaning to complete (spotting discs and replay counter unit), a couple of switches to adjust, and the game should be perfect.

    Then, the quest for a beautiful, less faded backglass will begin...

    #44 3 years ago
    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    Playfield complete with new S/I cards.

    That really does look great with those cards installed. I like how the dark brown makes those cards pop!

    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    Then, the quest for a beautiful, less faded backglass will begin...

    Are you kidding? Maybe it's hard to tell in pictures, but every photo I've seen of that thing it looks fantastic! ...let me know when you plan on hucking your old one in the trash.

    Nice work, guys!!!

    #45 3 years ago

    Original cabinet graphics are quite pretty once you got through the hack-job over paint.

    Nice that they were still in that good a condition.

    #46 3 years ago
    Quoted from ArcadeTechNerd:

    Original cabinet graphics are quite pretty once you got through the hack-job over paint.

    Agreed, very odd. It was common to kick the doors of these games to try to get them to award increases in odds or features, but this one wasn't that bad! I still wonder why they bothered to do it.

    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    Maybe it's hard to tell in pictures, but every photo I've seen of that thing it looks fantastic!

    Common for sun exposure and 17V lamp circuits - reds turn to orange. The carry-over bumper feature is flaking away, and the sky is turning white in one area. Otherwise, it is quite nice. I'm just really picky.

    #47 3 years ago

    Ava keeps surprising me with this project - she asked this morning when she was on the way to school if we could work on it tonight.

    I think she's as ready to get the lockbar installed again as I am!

    I'm a bit concerned about one issue related to the cabinet work - the trim along the sides has been painted over - we may just clean and then repaint as there are chunks missing due to damage (hitting with the siderail as it is installed - it's heavy!). Ava and I have been stripping the paint, but it's mostly bare wood under there, which may explain why they repainted the runners.

    1 week later
    #48 3 years ago

    More has happened in the past few days. We've finished stripping the paint we will strip from the cabinet - the side runners are still a mixed gold, red and bare wood.

    Here's a moody, dark photo of the lockbar reinstalled:

    I think with the repainted apron, another good clean on the ball lifter cover, sanded, stained, and shellac'ed lockbar, and replated siderails, this game is lookin' pretty good! We did end up adding a touch of new stain (after minor sanding) to the wooden slats affixed to the siderails, and put a very light shellac on them. Note the NOS instruction cards from an anonymous (for now) benefactor.

    Our next cosmetic step is to either treat, sand and repaint the side runners, or to fill and touch up the cabinet front. There are some sections with minor missing paint and minor gouges, but nothing too terrible! Shouldn't take too long as most of the rough sections are either reddish orange or black.

    Our last cosmetic issue will be the coin acceptor and shooter assembly. Looks pretty rough right now! Coin acceptor should polish up nicely, but I'm not so sure about the shooter rod.

    I also want to plug the paint remover that we used. I will detail that in a later post. I tried several before settling on this (relatively) harmless (to the underlying image) spray bottle.

    I will teach her how to wax the cabinet and then we will get to the last of the electromechanical issues - cleaning the steppers on the bottom board, and ensuring all relays and spotting discs work appropriately.

    Not sure when our next session will be, but until then:


    64 doubled with bumper hits = 128 replays! Only five coins into this game (been playing pretty badly in the run up to this one - still came out way ahead)! There must be a unit like the 'score extra step' inside the Turf King, since the odds will occasionally do a huge run. On my third coin, they jumped all the way to 64. In a future post, I'll document how to play this game (once we have all the minor bugs worked out).

    The only thing that doesn't make sense to me (and I have not had time to read the schematic to decipher its use), is the lighted sections with teaser arrows at the bottom of the glass. Wild is always highlighted, and occasionally, the stepper will move eventually lighting each of the sections. I have no idea what this indicates. Perhaps a score doubling feature? I read on Ray Watt's website that players would put in a coin to stop the stepping before 'win' lit. This was to prevent odds jumps from becoming more stingy. If anyone has any idea, I'd love to know. It is not shown on the score or instruction cards.

    I'll review the schematic when we get back to electrical work.

    #49 3 years ago
    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    I am thinking of...repainting the apron...a spray brown.

    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    photo of the lockbar reinstalled

    That does look pretty great. I must admit, I do...

    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    ...like how the dark brown makes those cards pop!

    Lookin' good, guys!

    #50 3 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    Lookin' good, guys!

    Thank you (I'll make sure Ava gets the message)! It feels great to put your hands on that game now, the lockbar is buttery smooth, and the siderails feel quite nice in the hand.

    I can't take any credit, I just bought some chemicals and paint. Ava has done all the work.

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