Quoted from way2wyrd:Black older model? Or in a jigsaw cab or????
Congratz
Additional “coming home” teaser....more pics when I get it set up.
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6CE2A7B3-6784-47CE-9E11-CA04034FA2D7 (resized).jpegIn the club about 2 weeks now.
Nice semi-restored condition.
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Looks fully restored, nice haul.
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Very Nice! Hope to get a World's Fair Someday. Never going to spend that cash on an Army/Navy. Here they are expensive!
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:Very Nice! Hope to get a World's Fair Someday. Never going to spend that cash on an Army/Navy. Here they are expensive!
yeah there's only a handful of Army/Navy machines out there and you have to be a special kind of collector to go for it. For the same price you can get 2 Stern LEs NIB.
When you're that level of collector, you just pay the price to play curator for a few yeas/decades until it's time to pass it onto the next.
Joined the Rockola "pinball" club recently. The rifle is a WWII M1 carbine manufactured by Rockola ten years after the World's Fair Jig-saw it rests upon in the photo. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly an American manufacturing company retooled from amusement devices to killing devices. Though the Rockola pinballs are a recent acquisition to me, this rifle was my grandfather's and thus is very dear to me.
IMG_2282 (resized).jpgQuoted from EasternBloc:Joined the Rockola "pinball" club recently. The rifle is a WWII M1 carbine manufactured by Rockola ten years after the World's Fair Jig-saw it rests upon in the photo. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly an American manufacturing company retooled from amusement devices to killing devices. Though the Rockola pinballs are a recent acquisition to me, this rifle was my grandfather's and thus is very dear to me.
It always shocks me too how quickly manufacturers switched it up, but I guess companies are set for building things and that's their specialty, not amusement machines per se.
Like think of the "war effort", how many companies switched from making ~whatever~ to making military supplies in WW1 and WW2.
Quoted from EasternBloc:Joined the Rockola "pinball" club recently. The rifle is a WWII M1 carbine manufactured by Rockola ten years after the World's Fair Jig-saw it rests upon in the photo. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly an American manufacturing company retooled from amusement devices to killing devices. Though the Rockola pinballs are a recent acquisition to me, this rifle was my grandfather's and thus is very dear to me.[quoted image]
Is there somewhere I can read more about this? I assume the other manufacturers followed suit?
Quoted from Gotemwill:Is there somewhere I can read more about this? I assume the other manufacturers followed suit?
https://www.americanrifleman.org/Webcontent/pdf/2009-6/2009629105559-r804_f_rockola.pdf
A few more pics...
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anyone in the Northeast do repairs/resto of a world series. I can't get the turntable to work right.
TIA
mark
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I've put together a comprehensive restoration log for World's Series. Included in the log are hundreds of photos and videos documenting how the game works, inside and out.
https://www.funwithpinball.com/resources/Worlds-Series
I hope you enjoy it.
/Mark
(I forgot about this topic before I created a new one the other day.)
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Just picked one of these up to assemble for a customer. Long story short - her husband was putting it back together when he passed away and she wants it finished. I know this may be a fools errand but she is understanding that it may take a long time or not be possible.
So anyway...does anyone know if the "Play Ball!" backboard has been reproduced - that seems to be the only thing missing for this one. Thanks!
20200916_134936 (resized).jpgQuoted from michiganpinball:So anyway...does anyone know if the "Play Ball!" backboard has been reproduced - that seems to be the only thing missing for this one. Thanks!
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http://rockola.buckwerx.com/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=62
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Hello All,
I have a client with this game for sale. Asking 1700 in unrestored condition. If thats too high please educate me lol
Im not too familiar with pricing for these. Thanks in advance! JR
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I have a client with this game for sale. Asking 1700 in unrestored condition. If thats too high please educate me lol
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Prices have escalated for desirable prewar games, especially for Rockolas, these past three years. Nevertheless, this example is overpriced, in my opinion.
I own a Rockola World Series, World's Fair Jigsaw and Army Navy (the Rockola trifecta) and I have restored a 2nd Rockola Jigsaw as well as a variety of other prewar games over the past 37 years in the hobby.
Assuming your friend's example is mechanically complete and free of water exposure, substantial defects or major rust/degradation, I value it closer to the $900 - $1,100 range, perhaps as high as $1,500 to a motivated buyer in some regions. The original legs, leg plates and coin door are all present, which is a plus. The shooter plate, rod, coin slide and lock down bar are all present.
The marquee and frame are missing. They can be purchased at buckwerx.com. That's a website operated by Nate Thompson who took over the Rockola pinball repro parts business from the legendary Hal O'Rourke.
The disc needs to be restored or replaced. The playfield graphics appear to be intact and should clean up well. The cabinet needs some love. It's hard to gauge the cabinet's overall condition from the photos, though.
World's Series is not an uncommon title. When taken out of service, operators brought them home. Thus, many more survived compared to Jigsaw, even though Jigsaw was also manufactured in great numbers. Conventional wisdom is that fewer than 200 Jigsaws have survived and perhaps under 30 Army Navy examples.
Nice restored examples of World's Series do fetch $2K - $3K in the current marketplace and high-end restorations have sold for $4,500. Personally, I prefer original examples with a nice patina. Also, I prefer the green/blue cabinet as opposed to the black ones. It's hard to find examples with well-preserved original cabinets and original marquees.
The playfield graphic colors vary. However, no graphic color combination is more valued than any other. Good luck!
My instinct is that Znet is on the generous side with the 900-1100 estimate given the cabinet, but there is a lot more regional volatility with prewar.
I am in the market for one of these to work on and display in my shop.
If someone has one they want to let go, PM me. Thanks!
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One more looking pretty
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Hello,
I to have a Rockola World Series however its in really bad nick, but only paid about 500$. It was purchased a few years ago but never got round to doing it up. I also have a Rockola Jigsaw its fine plays well, did nothing to playfield other than a clean. Thanks to Nathan got all the bits id needed for both machines. Just bought a Rockola Wings these are tiny, completely seized had to remove so much wood just to get the playfield out and the door off no keys, but its fine now just needs a complete rebuild except for the playfield in remarkable condition considering age. Anyway some picture below that's right no base completed fell apart due to the dreaded worm, did put cabinet into quarantine with lots of woodworm killer OK now I hope. Will go to Mans Shed on Thursday and lightly sandblast the allow parts and the Rockola Wings metal parts.
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Update started the cleanup, with light grit blast. Will get back to completing the grit blast next week of my remaining world series and start on my rockola wings, which i have managed to free up. Need to dig out my turntable overlay which i got from Nathan, or I might make a stencil and repaint which i think will look a lot better.
DF600F32-2E2A-41FA-BA2A-64671C215941 (resized).jpegI recently completed a restoration of a 1934 World Series and I made a video documenting the process!
I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced a broken spider casting but I did and have outlined my solution in the video.
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Were currently working on a replacement spider casting. Hopefully we should be able to get it out in the next few months
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My World's Series has the tilt mechanism but is missing the tilt flag. I fashioned one out of thin stainless based on images and videos at @markg's World's Series restoration site (thanks Mark!) and it works as it should (will add a decal with "TILTED" and "***" on it soon as I'm not going to try stamping them), but does anyone have a spare of this part? I already checked with Nate and he doesn't.
Quoted from tfduda:I fashioned one out of thin stainless
Excellent work. Can you share any details about the process here or in its own topic? Do you have a pattern? Were any special tools or techniques required?
Quoted from MarkG:Can you share any details about the process here or in its own topic? Do you have a pattern? Were any special tools or techniques required?
Nothing too complicated. I estimated size from measurements of the tilt mechanism. I then made a rough pattern with an index card (see below) and then made a rough cut out of the stainless (0.018" thick) to see how it'd work. I didn't include the side extension on one of the legs on the rough cut (but it is definitely is needed as the arm on the tilt mechanism pushes the flag back into place with this extension). Then I made the final one out of the same material with a little more attention to detail. The thickness looks much less than the original piece and I am not sure how well it will hold up over time (likely won't last 89 more years!) but it was a sheet I had on hand and was easy to cut and bend.
For the rough cut, I used tools on hand: shears to cut it out, a nail punch for making holes, and a vise to bend. For the final one I used a dremel with cut-off wheels to cut it out, a drill to make the holes, the same vise, and a file for smoothing edges.
IMG_2472 (resized).JPGIll put it on the pieces to model and make available for printing
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/cphale-parts-and-designs?li=pb
Quoted from way2wyrd:Ill put it on the pieces to model and make available for printing
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/cphale-parts-and-designs?li=pb
ha, Chris is that you?? I had no idea.
Everyone should know Chris worked with me to make this replacement piece for my Merry-Go-Round! https://www.shapeways.com/product/GMQJ4UQXJ/1934-gottlieb-merry-go-round-shooter-housing?optionId=144919377&li=shops
Quoted from cait001:ha, Chris is that you?? I had no idea.
Nope its me Jeff, Chris however is a friend of mine and most of the rockola parts have come out of my machines.
Could someone who has a complete tilt mechanism snap a couple of pictures of the two positions of the tilt flag (where it says "TILTED" and where it says "***") from directly overhead and then post them here? I'll use them to create a decal to put on my make-shift tilt flag. Thanks!
here is my tilt from my world series that i am rebuilding
The measurements are across the top is tilted to *** about 1 inch and 1/4 around the curve and just under a inch across. Its an 1 1/4 inches to the lower hole to top of tilted. Hope this helps.
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New member of the club! I purchased it recently from someone who had it in the family for quite some time and remembers playing it as a boy in the early 60s. It's my first pre-war machine but it fits well with woodrails from the 50s (and I was surprised to find that it's about the same height as newer pinballs!).
The machine took a fair bit of tinkering to get it up and running as it should and cleaning to get it looking a bit better than it did when I got it. The major mechanical work included installing a new star wheel (old one was cracking and so warped that it prevented the field disc from turning), leveling the field disc, and getting ball drops to consistently trigger the turning of the field disc. Info here and from @Nate's buckwerx site (http://rockola.buckwerx.com) and @MarkG's fun with pinball site describing World's Series (https://www.funwithpinball.com/resources/Worlds-Series) helped tremendously. Nate also helped walk me through ball drop issues (misalignment of the wire rail appeared to be the major culprit for the inconsistency). A lot of parts needed a bit of elbow grease to remove oxidation and generally clean up. Otherwise, the machine was missing the instruction sticker, marquee, lockdown bar, upper part of shooter guard, and door, but got these plus a few other items from Nate at buckwerx (thanks Nate!). As discussed above, I also fashioned a tilt flag out of thin stainless and some stickers to ensure no one tries to cheat the house.
Now I just need to install the playfield screws and glass and it'll be ready to start earning its keep!
By the way, is there ever a time when a ball exits via the lower left gate? It seems that the only chance for this is if a ball jumps over the left rail when balls are being ejected from the field disc, but so far I haven't seen this happen. Or was the lower left set up like the lower right just for the sake of symmetry?
Quoted from tfduda:By the way, is there ever a time when a ball exits via the lower left gate?
in the thousands of games ive seen played on mine not once have i ever seen that, Ive always wondered about that as well
I think its happened to me when I launched many balls fast, and 3 went down the center.
The gate is closed, so it rolls to the left.?
I would guess it serves the purpose described by OLDPINGUY, and an anti-cheat function of preventing someone from lifting the front of the game to roll balls back up onto home plate (and score more runs with the balls already on base). Lift would of course trigger the tilt.
Nicely done Tom!
-Nate
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Good game this morning! Scored 14 runs but one of the “runs” balls fell down the error hole on a triple (though the number of skill points is the same (100) for any score of 12 or more runs). This too was the first time I’ve ran out of balls without getting three outs (although did come close on the previous game).
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