and only 173 pinsiders have them listed in their collections. There are 399 owners of MM and that is a 4400 unit run. I suspect alot of the high speeds are dead.

There's also a possibility that this is one of those cheaper games that non fanatical pinball owners (read: they only own one machine and don't live/eat/sleep pinball) have sitting in their basement, never to be sold or rarely thought about. Just a thought.

Yeah it wierd. Maybe half got shipped over seas. I am sure a ton sitting in garages, storage, etc.

Like TAF sold 20k + and yes a few on Ebay always but rarely I see those on CL based on the number sold.

Its the mystery in pinball. Where do all these games go?

Many High Speed's ended up in dumpsters.

I think at least half of them were a victim of their own success, played until there was barely any paint on the playfield, then scrapped. I think this was the fate of a lot of Space Shuttle machines, too.

Maybe because hs2 is so similar but has better sound and dmd graphics everyone stopped caring about the original? I myself may be a HS owner in a couple weeks (they are out there)

That would not surprise me
I remember seeing a space shuttle only a few years old, the center of the playfield was bare wood the size of a hand

Everyone kisses HS2 ass around here like it's the pope...no one mentions HS much; other than me to say HS is better

Yes, and two of them were put there by me after I striped the water damaged cabinets I saved from the place that first threw them out! A LOT of High Speeds ended up being parts machines because it was the first system 11 game and you can use it's MPU for every series of system 11 game: 11,11A,11B and 11C.

Hs were played to death! Like above. Many were parted out.~SpOoKy

In the late 80's you could not walk into an arcade without seeing HS. If you saw pins anywhere, pretty good chance there was a HS. They must have earned very well because they were everywhere and they stayed in those locations for years, meaning they got the snot played out of them.

Even still, there are a lot left and there are a lot in people's collections. The low numbers in Pinsider's collections is easy to understand, a huge number of people here think pinball was invented in 1992. Those people are not pinball fans.

love for both

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HS is an icon in pinball period.

First pinball to play a complete song.
First Williams pinball game to use alpha-numeric displays.
First use of Auto Percentaging (for replay scores).
First Jackpot available only during multiball.
First use of broken switch compensation programming.
First SS game with operator report.

I have owned HS and HS2. I now only have a restored HS and it took years to find one that was nice enough nearby. HS paved the way for what was to become the dmd era. It is a much better than HS2. Just like movie sequels, the original is always better.

mike

I think your right. The dumpster.

I was in Tucson last week and saw a riverboat gambler. Cab looked great like new, PF was worn to wood. Look terrible.

Changing the balls every few months would have prevented most of this, at least I belive this.
One the balls get pitted its acclerates everything.

Yep it is better. Anyone that has owned them both knows this. High Speed has a better light show, those cool 80's sounds, spinners, a real backglass, and just is a more fun game to own.

It is much easier to find a nice Getaway...so that is probably most of it. To have a nice High Speed takes more luck or restoration skill.

I always sound like I'm anti-HS2, which really isn't it. If it exsisted without HS1 I wouldn't have anything to compare it with. I know I'm a broken record in saying this, but changing the side ramp shot to a side loop was the biggest mistake. Game doesn't play anywhere near as well.

I don't think I ever saw a HS that wasn't worn to hell.And that was 20 years ago.

Well, I must confess, I recently rescued one from a musty old shed, and it is fully working in my gameroom, but I haven't put it on my collection list yet because she is in rough shape cosmetically. I thought that once I get her restored, then I could warrant adding it to the collection (I don't really like the idea of "padding" my collection numbers by showing project pins I guess - just my preference.) Anyway, there's one more located!

I'm a big fan of HS2, but I'll give you credit. Had it not been for me discovering High Speed back when it was brand new and really enjoying it, I probably would be more so so on its sequal.

I played a High Speed for the first time in 25 years recently, and I still remembered the music!

Oh damn just mentioning it now it's stuck in mine!

Me too!!! lol

I picked mine up 5 years ago for 250 bucks, not working. Took 3 years to just get it decent looking and playable, and the game is not going anywhere. Got the repro plastics, a NOS ramp, and am happily awaiting the run of the repro pfs

Does anyone want to trade my HS for their HSII?

There's one up for sale on San Diego Craigslist.

sandiego.craigslist.org link

It's a great game. So well done. Tons of little details that make me happy every time I play it.

Mines in the middle of getting the treatment it deserves.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/high-speed-full-restoration-started-whridlsoncestood-112512

I have a very minty HS. All original bought back in 1990. Clean machine inside and out. Cabinet is still high gloss. The inside/outside looks new, The backglass is very nice with no bubbling/pealing etc. I recently put a set of brand new led displays in it and brand new legs, bolts, levelers. But other then that this machine is as minty original as they come. I would be willing to trade or sell out right. I have a couple pix now of it but the new legs and new displays are not installed yet in these pix. I can take more pix of it for interested partys. I wasn't even going to sell it yet but seen this thread and decided to put it out there.

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i just picked one up second one since x mas in great shape unshopped pm me if intereested
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wow, that is one nice HS

I kept putting the heat on a friend to sell his HS to me since I got in the hobby, and he wouldn't budge on it. I finally made him an offer he couldn't refuse, since he was rarely playing it and he was more interested in some bikes. Technically I bought it for my wife as a Christmas present (she actually wrote it on her Christmas list!) , it has been a long time favorite of hers...this means you will likely never see this one for sale - at least for a long time.

Wow, I didn't realize how lucky I was until now. I was chit chatting with an operator and asked if he had any machines for sale. He showed me 5 machines, mostly EM, but one was High Speed. I'm pretty sure I overpaid (it's probably a 7/10 condition), but when you gotta have it...

Maybe this tactic can work if you can still find one in the wild. As good as it is, it probably can't earn when placed near a Tron, Iron Man, and ACDC.

this has been for sale near me for forever.... swv.craigslist.org link

When i bought my HS a 6 months ago, here in NJ there were plenty for sale.
I saw about 1 different one local either on ebay or craigs per week.

Prices ranged from $550-$2500.

I got the sense too that it was a players game, wasn't really for collectors.
The well used ones that worked fine sold for around $1000, broken ones for like $750 and the one i got one that was a all screwed up for $450.

I enjoyed HS as a project, I'm in it as much as one that was in better condition, but now i know 1000% more about working on a machine than i did before.
Other good news is that because there is so many parts are fairly plentiful and there are tons of people to help with it.

The HS I have is SOLD, thank you to all that emailed me about my HS.

silonoid's are hard to come by theses days...

I have 2, one has a unique playfield (someone painted it), that one I think needs displays....

Waiting on a playfield for it...

Speaking of # of games made vs where are they now/why not more for sale, what about TAF???

HS has spinners. If only HS2 had spinners as well...

Yup, They were played to the wood then junked.
Really nice examples are hard to find and go for top dollar when they do pop up.
I sold mine and all the NOS parts I collected up when the repro PFs never happened.
I will buy another one if a nice example should pop up in my area, most of the ones I have seen are worse than the one I sold.

Ditto, it even has the proper legs.

seems weird like that- sometimes there are none for some time (usually when your loooking for one), then you see severial show up all over at once (usually right after you bought it) and are not looking for it any more. just seems like that

Or any good deal on a game as soon as you buy one...100 times out of 100!

Start looking for another HS, the repro PFs are in CNC programming right now! I am super excited for this, been waiting for years!

I hate to say I found a reasonably nice one in a guys basement by his coal stove for cheap. Other than being covered in the grey soot it was in reasonably good shape, cabinet is a bit beat, but the thing is mostly black so touch up seems pretty easy, the playfield is what I really care about and it appears to have had full mylar from day one.

Now if I can only get the game to work, sad no repros of the MPU are being made. The board will fully boot and show a "0" on the LED, when I press SW2 it turns to an "8" then back to "0" like it is suppose to, but the game will not go into attract mode. Nothing works, ever, from the time I turn it on, only the GI comes on and that is it. No solenoids fire, no sound of any kind, no displays.

The test point voltages on power supply are right one, all fuses are good. I am thinking a trace or two in the battery acid damage area were broken on the MPU, it did have some acid damage. I have printed out Clay's list of chips and what each leg traces to, but it takes so long to got through them all, I am about 1.5 pages into the 10 pages. I have only found one questionable one, I get continuity, but it is marginal, so I will put in a jumper on that trace. Can anyone guide me as to which chip I should be focusing on? What would let the MPU test good, but still not let anything work/go into attract mode. Am I missing something obvious that is not the MPU?

I already fell for that once and waited years, not going to happen a second time.

What are you asking for it?

I have been waiting since 2007 or 2008 myself, so I understand

I went to see one on CL a while back for $550. The playfield was beat to hell, beyond simple repair, and it was someone who just bought cheap at one time, had in basement for years. I think this is where many are. I walked away based on the playfield wear.

yup, PF wear seems to be all too common on these. i have a friend who has one in her record store. decent amount of PF wear, cracked up plastics abound, and has some error that prevents it from starting up, even in free play (guessing it's a kick out solenoid issue???) if it wasn't the fact that she's a good friend, i'd try to bargaining a little more for it. also, after two fixer upper pins, it would be nice to get something i don't have to spend a bunch of time and money on fixing up.