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I will be getting a Pro at some point. Haven't decided if I'm going NIB or waiting for a HUO when someone upgrades.
One thing I *was* wondering. I really prefer the sling plastics on the LE versus what's on the Pro. Not a deal breaker by any means but I wonder if Stern would allow anyone to purchase an LE plastics set if they wanted to switch out those plastics?
Quoted from Cdonnerusmc:Munsters LE is on order as well as Monster bash LE
You're getting the ultra rare Mirror Image Munsters LE?
Lucky! 
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Use the code GIFT15 for another 15% off until March 13.
Quoted from whitey:Nice flipper bats ! Where did you get those
Are you referring to these?
Quoted from cantbfrank:Len Amin Monday. I payed it a lot today and noticed the the glass looking into the lower playfield was not flush with the playfield and changes the ball path.
Anyone else have this issue?
I played an LE yesterday that had this issue on occasion. Seemed to happen more when the ball was moving slowly. Window looked flush with the playfield.
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:I finally got a chance to put some games in on a Munsters (LE) this past week and was somewhat disappointed with the lower playfield gameplay as the "balls" seem to be very lightweight beads. I can now better understand the comparisons by others to FG's Stewie playfield.
I was able to play a few games on an LE and sadly had the exact reaction I feared I would have. The lower playfield felt like a cheap toy. Not trying to be rude, but that's exactly what it felt like to me. Sure it's got a lot more going on than Stewie pinball, but still has that same feel.
I'm glad others find it enjoyable but it cemented the fact that I'd personally never be interested in a Premium or LE.
Quoted from MK6PIN:Can respect you not liking it (doesn't feel "cheap" to me, just different)...I've always liked FGY, so this is just an enhanced deployment (learning to cradle and make shots down there is very challenging)...maybe a Pro (which I wouldn't like) or just "next" for you.....Pinball is a great toy......
I own a Pro already. I was *thinking* about possibly upgrading to a Premium of LE based on how I liked the lower playfield, but sadly it just doesn't do it for me.
I did the cradling and all that but the speed of that small ball just feels wrong to me. Maybe I'm just too old! 
PRO V0.96 - March 11, 2019
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Fixed:
- Secret Mania was not tracking progress correctly
- Fixed Lily II was not showing the correct instruction messages
- SPOT flasher was not being used during SPOT mode
- Fixed the scoring on Munster Madness. Stage Three was using the wrong values
- Shortened the Midnight Madness Ball Save adjustment name to fit the screen
- Fixed Drain audits. If ball save was turned on the audits for left, right,
and center were not calculated correctly.
- Feature adjustment ALLOW SPOT ATTRACT now works correctly.
- Fixed a case where ball search would start too soon at the start Midnight
Madness.
- Fixed an issue where the game could reset during Midnight Madness.
- Raven Multiball would stay boosted after the multiball ended.
- Fixed a case where the lower timer was not initialized correctly.
New:
- Added utilizing the SPOT flasher every time Spot is in the up position
- Added an adjustment to Allow Raven to be lit on Level II like Level I.
Meaning all the other areas will light Raven as they are completed. This
will default to YES, Raven Level II will be lit from other areas. If set to
NO, Raven level II will only be lit from hitting a lit Kitty.
- Added HOW-TO play rule videos to the attract mode
- Added Speech and chime sounds to the clock advancement in Raven Multiball
- Added Munster Madness II -
- Added adjustment to allow the owner to change the strength of the
auto-plunger. It will default to 200. It was kicking at 255.
- Added flipper cancel for all total animations. Hold both flippers to end the
currently running total animation.
- Added the ability to end the replay/Special display effects early by
holding in both flipper buttons.
- Added Midnight Madness champion.
- Added a few shaker motor effects
- New Munster Madness level - This is a four ball multiball
- Moved the old Munster Madness to level II and increased the scoring.
- Created a new Munster Madness level I that is similar but simpler.
- There are 5 areas: Herman, Raven, Lily, Spot, and Grandpa
- There are two stages:
- STAGE ONE - Shoot Each Area three times
- Starting with Herman, you will want to shoot each area up to
3 times before the time runs out.
- You have 10 seconds per area
- When the timer run out or you complete the area, you will
move to the next area
- When all 5 area are complete or timed out you will move to
the next stage.
- STAGE TWO - Shoot a hurry up at the Electric Chair
- In this stage, all the shots you made in stage one contribute
to the value of a hurry-up that starts to count down.
- Shoot the electric Chair to collect it.
- If you collect it or if it times out you will move back to
stage one.
- There are no zap Jackpots during this Multiball.
- Added Topper adjustment to allow the owner to turn off sounds during the
attract mode.
- Added STARTING HERMAN SHOTS NEEDED adjustment. Set to the number of shots
you want players to have to shoot before lighting their first Herman
Hurry-Up.
- Added STARTING GRANDPA TARGETS NEEDED adjustment. Set to the number of
targets you want players to have to shoot before lighting their first
Grandpa Laboratory.
- Added several adjustments to many of the installs.
- The difficulty installs change these 11 adjustments: BALL SAVE TIME,
STARTING HERMAN SHOTS NEEDED, STARTING GRANDPA TARGETS NEEDED,
STARTING SPOT LETTERS, 1ST SPOT LETTERS NEED TWO RAMPS, RAVEN LIGHT
LEVEL II AS I, AREA LEVELS EXTRA BALL, BALL SAVE TIMER: HERMAN MBALL,
BALL SAVE TIMER: RAVEN MBALL, BALL SAVE TIMER: MUNSTER MBALL, and
BALL SAVE TIMER: MIDNIGHT MBALL
- The HOME install sets FREE PLAY to yes, High Score initials to 10
letters, and turns the Attract show intro sounds to YES (on).
- HOME and DIRCETOR installs have the same results
- INSTALL 3 BALL and INSTALL 5 BALL are the same as INSTALL MEDIUM.
Tweaked:
- Changed Raven. One spin of the spinner moves the minute hand slower. This
makes it harder to advance the hour hand and therefore slower to increase
the jackpot values.
- Changed Raven II. Each time the hour changes, from spinning the spinner, all
the jackpots will be relit making it harder to complete all four upgrading
them to the next color.
- Ending Munster Madness will now clear any lit Raven shots on the left ramp.
- Improved the Enlarging Ray Background lamp effects
- Changed Enlarging Ray II:
- The four mini-targets do not all blink together.
- One is lit at a time and it moves back and forth.
- Hitting the moving target will lite all remaining jackpots.
- Removed the audit for Mystery lighting Super jackpot since mystery always
lights super jackpot in addition to giving you something randomly.
- Tweaked the default power strength for kicking balls out of the trough from
255 to 240.
- Added the current value of super jackpot to the instant info page. It shows
what you would get if you collected your super jackpots right then.
- Improved the start lamp effects for Munster Madness
- Improved the flavor of speech on some occasions
- Improved the accuracy of extra ball auto percentage ability
- Increased the value of stacks of 5 or Super Jackpots.
- Reduced the base value of the Super Jackpot from 500K to 350K.
- Improved many of the sounds for the Munster Madness scenes and jackpots.
- Tweaked the volume of a few tunes.
- Improved the EQ balance of Marilyn speech calls.
LE/PREMIUM V0.96 - March 11, 2019
=================================
Fixed:
- Secret Mania was not tracking progress correctly
- Fixed Lily II was not showing the correct instruction messages
- Fixed the scoring on Munster Madness. Stage Three was using the wrong values
- Shortened the Midnight Madness Ball Save adjustment name to fit the screen
- Fixed Drain audits. If ball save was turned on the audits for left, right,
and center were not calculated correctly.
- Feature adjustment ALLOW SPOT ATTRACT now works correctly.
- Fixed a case where ball search would start too soon at the start Midnight
Madness.
- Fixed an issue where the game could reset during Midnight Madness.
- Raven Multiball would stay boosted after the multiball ended.
- Fixed a case where the lower timer was not initialized correctly.
New:
- Added utilizing the SPOT flasher every time Spot is in the up position
- Added an adjustment to Allow Raven to be lit on Level II like Level I.
Meaning all the other areas will light Raven as they are completed. This
will default to YES, Raven Level II will be lit from other areas. If set to
NO, Raven level II will only be lit from hitting a lit Kitty.
- Added HOW-TO play rule videos to the attract mode
- Added Speech and chime sounds to the clock advancement in Raven Multiball
- Added adjustment to allow the owner to change the strength of the
auto-plunger. It will default to 200. It was kicking at 255.
- Added flipper cancel for all total animations. Hold both flippers to end the
currently running total animation.
- Added the ability to end the replay/Special display effects early by
holding in both flipper buttons.
- Added Midnight Madness champion.
- Added a few shaker motor effects
- New Munster Madness level - This is a four ball multiball
- Moved the old Munster Madness to level II and increased the scoring.
- Created a new Munster Madness level I that is similar but simpler.
- There are 5 areas: Herman, Raven, Lily, Spot, and Grandpa
- There are two stages:
- STAGE ONE - Shoot Each Area three times
- Starting with Herman, you will want to shoot each area up to
3 times before the time runs out.
- You can also shoot the 4 lower playfield jackpots.
- You have 10 seconds per area.
- When the timer run out or you complete the area, you will
move to the next area
- When all 5 area are complete or timed out you will move to
the next stage.
- STAGE TWO - Shoot a hurry up at the Electric Chair
- In this stage, all the shots you made in stage one, including
the lower level jackpots, contribute to the value of a hurry
up that starts to count down.
- Shoot the electric Chair to collect it.
- If you collect it or if it times out you will move back to
stage one.
- After stage two the lower playfield jackpots will only light
after each time you hit the current area.
- The only Zap Jackpot opportunities during this multiball are on
the lower level.
- Added Topper adjustment to allow the owner to turn off sounds during the
attract mode.
- Added STARTING HERMAN SHOTS NEEDED adjustment. Set to the number of shots
you want players to have to shoot before lighting their first Herman
Hurry-Up.
- Added STARTING GRANDPA TARGETS NEEDED adjustment. Set to the number of
targets you want players to have to shoot before lighting their first
Grandpa Laboratory.
- Added several adjustments to many of the installs.
- The difficulty installs change these 11 adjustments: BALL SAVE TIME,
STARTING HERMAN SHOTS NEEDED, STARTING GRANDPA TARGETS NEEDED,
STARTING SPOT LETTERS, 1ST SPOT LETTERS NEED TWO RAMPS, RAVEN LIGHT
LEVEL II AS I, AREA LEVELS EXTRA BALL, BALL SAVE TIMER: HERMAN MBALL,
BALL SAVE TIMER: RAVEN MBALL, BALL SAVE TIMER: MUNSTER MBALL, and
BALL SAVE TIMER: MIDNIGHT MBALL
- The HOME install sets FREE PLAY to yes, High Score initials to 10
letters, and turns the Attract show intro sounds to YES (on).
- HOME and DIRCETOR installs have the same results
- INSTALL 3 BALL and INSTALL 5 BALL are the same as INSTALL MEDIUM.
Tweaked:
- Changed Raven. One spin of the spinner moves the minute hand slower. This
makes it harder to advance the hour hand and therefore slower to increase
the jackpot values.
- Changed Raven II. Each time the hour changes, from spinning the spinner, all
the jackpots will be relit making it harder to complete all four upgrading
them to the next color.
- Ending Munster Madness will now clear any lit Raven shots on the left ramp.
- Improved the Enlarging Ray Background lamp effects
- Changed Enlarging Ray II:
- The four mini-targets do not all blink together.
- One is lit at a time and it moves back and forth.
- Hitting the moving target will lite all remaining jackpots.
- Removed the audit for Mystery lighting Super jackpot since mystery always
lights super jackpot in addition to giving you something randomly.
- Tweaked the default power strength for kicking balls out of the trough from
255 to 240.
- Added the current value of super jackpot to the instant info page. It shows
what you would get if you collected your super jackpots right then.
- Improved the start lamp effects for Munster Madness
- Improved the flavor of speech on some occasions
- Improved the accuracy of extra ball auto percentage ability
- Increased the value of stacks of 5 or Super Jackpots.
- Reduced the base value of the Super Jackpot from 500K to 350K.
- Improved many of the sounds for the Munster Madness scenes and jackpots.
- Tweaked the volume of a few tunes.
- Improved the EQ balance of Marilyn speech calls.
Quoted from gac:Are there any key chain /promo plastics in the goodie bag? Haven't seen any so I'm thinking not.
I bought one of these off Ebay.
ebay.com link: The Munsters Hotel Key Tag Keychain
Munsters Keychain (resized).jpgQuoted from thebosson:Those look nice. Where did you get the spots?
Everything came from Pinball Life.
Sockets - https://www.pinballlife.com/playfield-accent-spotlight-assembly.html
Bulbs - https://www.pinballlife.com/ablaze-4-smd-led-555-wedge-base-lamp.html (Cool White)
I ended up NOT using the reflectors on the spots for a number of reasons. First and foremost they weren't needed and the spots would be more obtrusive with them on. Secondly, if I used them I would have had to put the spots on standoffs for ball clearance on the upper sling positions.
I like the SMD bulbs from PBL because they are very low profile and put out a lot of light.
For power, I put 2-pin male Molex connectors on the end of each spot. I added a couple of 2-pin female Molex connectors under the playfield and tapped into existing white GI.
For added stealth, I put black shrink tubing over the lamp and socket which should also help keep the bulb in place.
Bulbs were mounted on existing screws. A couple of them required me enlarging the mounting hole on the spotlight itself.
Wires were routed through existing holes.
I did notice the spotlight that Stern used on Herman is very small and may also work well. Not sure if it's available somewhere or if it comes with any type of mounting bracket.
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Quoted from C0untDeM0net:My Pro arrived today from Amazon.
Is there any external damage to the cabinet itself? If not, keep it. Anything internal would be covered under warranty.
Quoted from pninja005:How does pro hold up against the others? I'm not a big fan of mini playfields.
Is pro worth getting?
I'm not a fan of mini playfields either. I've played the LE a number of times. I still don't like mini playfields. To me, it's just a novelty. Plus I had a LOT of experiences with the ball on the upper playfield being redirected by the edge of the lower playfield window. So for me, the Premium/LE was a hard pass.
So yes, the pro is worth getting.
Quoted from steffan:see if the ball stop is going down after the first ball is shot.( white plastic rod in back of herman ) not sure what it's called. it stops the ball from making a loop when it is first shot.on mine sometimes it wouldn't go down ball would get stuck on it. needed an adjustment.
My upper orbit post also needed adjustment as the post was sitting slightly higher than the playfield. Enough that a slow moving ball would get hung up.
Lift the playfield, loosen the nut on the bolt under the orbit post, then screw the bolt in until the upper post is even with the playfield (or just a *hair* higher). Then re-tighten the nut.
Quoted from Who-Dey:Robert you cant blame that on the playfield window, you blame that on the person that put the lower playfield glass on wrong! Also the lower playfield if a hell of a lot more than a novelty, its a huge addition to the gameplay and the code. Its a whole nother mode added to the game.
I've noticed it on two separate LEs with two different owners. It could well be an adjustment issue.
I'm not arguing the validity of the lower playfield. It's just not for me (for the added cost).
Quoted from tpir:Agreed. The lower playfield shoots really nice (if you set the flippers to medium.)
I have some small problems with very slow moving balls on the upper playfield being affected by the edge. I assume it is screwed in too tightly?
I have no idea how the power was set to the lower flippers on the games I have played.
Quoted from JayLar:Nice but man thats a pricy cookoo-clock!
"Cuckoo Clock with spinning hour hand and raven head that pops out during game play to taunt the player and announce different modes."
And they want $425 + tax and shipping but don't even have a video showing what it actually does?
Very nice cards!
One request - can you make a color set that doesn't have the "Pro/Premium/LE Edition" text on it?
Haven't seen this posted here before but there are some cool Munsters 3D Vacuforms soon to be available at https://www.retroagogo.com/. These were shown at Comicon a couple of months ago.
Munsters Retro a Go Go.jpgI was actually thinking of getting one of these toppers but after the failure rate of the first batch, I held off.
Not seeing anything now that's tempting me to buy one.
Quoted from FtrMech:Declared revised/updated edition...backordered coming from Stern...I just found that out.
I bought one off Ebay from classicgamerooms almost a month ago. They are an authorized Stern distributor.
Still waiting to receive mine too.
Received my topper today. Couple of minor issues.
Raven seems to get stuck in the out position sometimes. Turning the game off then on does not reset it. A gentle nudge will get him back in so it's binding mechanically somewhere.
And Raven never lights up. Can you guess why? And no, there was no loose bulb in the box. So much for QC.
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Quoted from MK6PIN:I'd just grab the door and open/ close manually several times..not going to hurt anything.
just realized maybe the bulb has fallen behind the Raven head, preventing closure on occasion....I'd check that first....
I'm hoping the sticking door just needs a break-in period.
No bulb anywhere to be found. It was never installed. It's pretty hard for a bayonet base bulb to fall out anyways.
Quoted from JMCFAN:Still showing sold out at Stern.....
They are available. I just received mine last Friday from a distributor on Ebay.
Quoted from Who-Dey:I personally have not noticed this.
I have. Very infrequent but I know exactly the sound he's talking about. I'm pretty sure it's magnet related because I've heard the exact same sound at times from the magnet on my IM.
Switching from the topic of shakers to toppers, there needs to be an adjustment for the lighting level on the topper. I have my backbox lighting turned way down during game play and it would be nice to have the same adjustments available for the topper.
Also, I don't know if the light behind Raven is separately controllable but if so, the option for that light to come on only when Raven comes out would be nice as well.
Just more stuff that can be added for the next code update!
Quoted from chuckwurt:The bright white light behind the door of the topper is brutal.
Definitely should have an adjustment or not be used until the door opens.
If it's not controllable, maybe tie that bulb into the coil voltage (with a current limiting resistor of course) so the bulb is on when the coil is on.
Since my topper came without a bulb installed behind Raven and Stern support never sent one, I ended up putting a purple bulb in there and adjusted it so it's more behind Raven instead of off to the side. I can't even imagine what a bright white bulb would look like.
Has anyone added or thought of adding LED eyes to Raven (once the topper is out of warranty of course)?
Quoted from MK6PIN:Big time!!!...Waiting for all the smoke to clear a bit, and fully intending to by a spare Raven and add Red LED eyes...
Anyone wanting to buy a spare raven head to mod, here's the part number.
RAVEN HEAD – 880-6227-00
They're not available yet and will be about $45.
Quoted from Jon9508:I just got a pro with less then 200 plays for 4500. I thought it was a good deal.
That's about the going rate lately for any Pro. A local HUO IMDN Pro just sold for $4200, and it took them a while to sell it even at *that* price!
Quoted from RobertWinter:Anyone wanting to buy a spare raven head to mod, here's the part number.
RAVEN HEAD – 880-6227-00
They're not available yet and will be about $45.
These are available now. My distro just received one for me.
Quoted from BorgDog:So there didn't appear to be any Lily light action? is there not one, or was it not working?
Looks like his Lily light is not working. It should be lit like the other characters and flash when Lily mode is active.
Quoted from CTHOMAS1998:Ok, gotta ask..... how bad is it?
About $62 with tax and shipping!
Quoted from cottonm4:How big is it? Your picture makes it look huge.
It's from the topper so it's only about 1.25" tall.
I used purple behind Raven and red under the playfield with Spot.
I'll be adding red LED eyes to Raven at some point. Haven't decided if I'll wire them always on or tied to the door coil.
Quoted from cpr9999:Did you get it to work?
I entered flipper code, got the Welcome message. Then I hit grandpa scoop twice and I get nothing too.
Do you have to wait until the scoop is lighted up? Also, do you have to complete anything on the lower playfield? Then wait until the scoop lights again to hit it. Nothing else?
Incorrect response deleted.
Quoted from DrJoe:Anyone add any lighting to the Munsters pro? Rather dark playfield. Not interested in Pinstadiums, just a couple spotlights perhaps...
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/1313-mockingbird-lane-munsters-club/page/94#post-5049953
One of the five Drag-U-La cars built by Barris Kustoms will be up for auction in January 2022.
https://silodrome.com/drag-u-la-from-the-munsters/
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0122-487702/1964-dragula-munsters-coffin-dragster/
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Yeah, 1.21 just released...
Apparently registering IC wasn't working in 1.20
Quoted from Pinzap:FFS, it’s been said dozens of times that the “haze” on the video screen is intended to be there to create the sense of the glare on the TV screen.
I get why it's there but it ruins the look of the clips. Take it off. Or better yet, add an adjustment setting with the ability to turn it on/off.
When I asked Lyman (RIP) for user ability to change the score font color on EHOH (the color was changed in one of the updates and many didn't like it) he coded an entire font color editor in the adjustments so the user could select their own RGB values!
Looks like Cassandra Peterson will be part of the new Rob Zombie Munsters reboot. She'll be playing real estate agent Barbara Carr.
https://ew.com/movies/cassandra-peterson-the-munsters-elvira/
Screenshot_20220312-104803_Samsung Internet.jpgQuoted from Thunderbird:Where did you order it and how much?
He's on Discord. Channel name is "Xianek's Club". Those translites are 85 Euros plus 35 Euros for priority shipping to the U.S.
You order by sending him Paypal and then messaging him your shipping address.
Quoted from gac:Installed my color changing translite I got from Xianek. It is incredible. Black and white when off changes to deep, rich color when on. Stunning. Pics really don't do it justice.
I just want to echo this sentiment. I just received my translite from Xianek. Aside from the coolness factor of being black and white when off and changing to color when lit, the richness and clarity of this translite is just amazing. I also really like the artwork as the characters are MUCH more prominent. The stock translite looks muddy and washed out by comparison.
It was VERY well packed with double-walled cardboard and foam-paper wrapped with protective plastic film on the front.
Quoted from Thunderbird:Where did you order it and how much?
https://www.xianek.eu/ or contact him on his Discord server https://discord.gg/rfXUZJFg which is what I did.
It was 120 Euros including shipping, which ended up being about $140 USD.
Quoted from JMCFAN:Where?
Looks like this one.
https://m.aliexpress.com/i/3256805202035566.html?gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite4itemAdapt
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