I took the glass off and did some testing. Here's what I found with grandpa

1. If you start off the game like in the old code by shooting the two inside targets and then any of them, Grandpa will light but not be ready yet. You still have to get to 15 targets before enlarging ray is actually ready to go. This resets once munster madness is hit.

2. If you qualify grandpa via the chattering teeth while in a mode and shoot the scoop, enlarging ray will start. It's almost useless though as you can't see any of the lights for the grandpa mode. This goes for all modes and multiballs including munster madness.

3. If you start grandpa while in munster madness when you are done with munster madness grandpa will be complete for the next go of it. Since in multiballs a lot of targets are hit this is almost a guarantee to happen.

4. Chattering teeth appears to continue cycling between the playfield multi, bonus, and enlarging ray as you get farther in the game. It looks like you only get the extra ball once thru that mechanism

So it appears that there is some old code for grandpa still in there just not actually working. They might want to pause chattering teeth while in munster madness to reduce grandpa starting up there.

An idea for chattering teeth... Maybe after collecting the extra ball use that spot in the next level to relight mystery for MM 2 on.

I've been meaning to ask you guys.... When you turn off your munster's pinball machine does the audio let out a pop noise from the speakers? Is so, is this considered normal behavior? Besides that, the games audio is perfect.

All of my games are controlled by a switch, when I turn them off it sounds like an explosion. Totally normal.

Same sound on mine as well and even louder since I’ve added extra amps to upper and lower speakers, lol.

Ok, lol... Thank you!!

Ok, Thank you!!

I've got a bunch of people coming over this coming week to play pins and I've decided to revert munsters back to the previous release. Hopefully they fix the issues with enlarging ray in the insider connected release otherwise I'll probably stay on the old release. Enlarging ray is just running all the time now and when it does it's just not fun stacked with the multiball modes.

Pinside’s failed “Manipulators False 100” is completely bogus and Munsters listed at #105 is proof of that. In any real persons world, Munsters is easily a top 10 game and would have been there if not for code hold out (whatever the reason) being so long. Munsters has Universal monster theme, beloved TV series, top artwork (voted best), awesome Borg layout design, best toy in all of pinball, with a lower complete mini pinball machine on its own. Some of the most unique return ramps in all of pinball. Exciting pinball moments in the code.

I’ve not seen this on my premium n haven’t heard anyone else talk about this. So far I’m liking everything pretty good.

I've got the pro and others have noticed these issues with grandpa mode. Plus I'd rather have the secret mania as the code so I can play it if I want. I've.played a bunch of games now and not seen it from mystery

Yea I went back n reread a bunch of the post n it seems it’s on the pro so it must be something not right in the pro update wouldn’t u think. I talked to a few other friends of mine that have premium s n there not seeing it either kinda strange. Lol

I totally agree with you And there’s a bunch of pins on 100 list that are no way better than Munsters in my opinion

I was watching some vids of the game and noticed the knocker sound . I have reached some high scores and XTR balls and no knocker sound .
Went thru the settings and its on .
What am I missing ?

i think you will get the knocker sound from special, match, and grand champion.

you should regocnize it when it's in standard settings. It's very loud.
best will be to watch/hear for it with the matching at the end of a game.

Is there a way to start the Couch Potato Challenge with more than 1 player? I find if I try to add more players when starting that mode that beyond player 1, the multi ball does not start.

I also have played a lot of games. No Secret Mania from Mystery yet either. Maybe it needs to be turned on in the settings?

The DJ Mixer also lists a Wizard Mode song. Hmmm...

No Grand pa code issues that I have seen on my Prem either.

have some games too on my machine and never got secret mania
they removed the Flipper codes too to start it manualy and the other one with the clue to secret mania.
414 and 423

But it's a chance of 1 out of 20 to get it in mystery, maybe even less when they are prefering some settings to others.
so i hope to get it eventually, if it's not a bug.

I love the new code.

I always kinda had thoughts maybe I'd cut it loose someday, but I love the show & theme so much I really couldn't do that. Yet, the thought was always popping up.

I am pleased to say that "thought" carries no weight anymore...cus it isn't going anywhere, not that it really would have..just saying I am very pleased with the whole outcome.

Thanks again for the code.

So I redone my rating on my Munsters. So if we all start redoing are rating will that move it up on the top 100 ? I mean I look on the list at some of this games that are way ahead of Munsters and I’m like nope that’s bull crap lol

thanks! need to update the route munsters pro sooooo was hoping this works no matter what

I'd recommend just flashing a new sd card and pop it in when you get there. So much faster than the update process and if you see the same issues with the pro that I've been seeing you may want to hold off anyway or quickly switch back.

I was able to just pop the 1.03 sd card back in and the machine put the node boards back and everything is working fine.

So you mean bring a "blank" sd card, put it in, put update usb in, boot the game up and "update everything: and roll back the sd card if needed? I don't own a spike 2, just have these route ones.

it's more like:
You will need a computer with a SD-Card slot or a USB-Stick where you can plug in the SD-Card.
download SD-Card image from Stern support side.
get balena etcher or some similar program to put images on SD-Cards.
make a backup of your settings on a USB-Stick
Write image to a blank new SD-Card
Switch card in Pinball machine.
load back settings from usb stick.

Then you have a SD-Card with your old game code
and a new SD-Card with new game code

all settings are transfered with the Save/load via the usb stick.

Ah thats right, stern has the sd card image now. I'll see if i have a spare sd card!

Anyone know if there’s a setting to turn off the back box light when you get to grandpas basement?

The upper playfield goes dark but the back box light glare is distracting.

I dug thru settings and couldn’t find anything.

You can do it for the entire time you’re playing. I have mine set to be zero during play on all my new sterns.

It’s in the standard settings or the feature adjustments. Towards the end.

Good suggestion, although I like the back box lights during regular gameplay.

Wish there was a toggle to kill the back box during grandpa as it would really make the lower playfield pop during your visits there.

midnight madness just the best mode to switch over into the new year.
too bad i can not play it this year.

Sure you can. Just change the time on your game. Haha

I don't know about you guys, but that couch potato challenge is starting to piss me off! I have become so obsessed with getting a good score that I have not played a regular game in two days.

Lol I know right but it’s fun I love it. Man it’s such a great game.

I did the update, restarted on the stern repeat thing and it said successful and finished.

Now here comes the dumb question... there were two files in that update on my flash drive. Do I need to install the second one? Or did they both just install on their own?

They do it all on their own.

Well, for those who care...The Munster's is back in the top 100 in the 94 slot...I think we can do better for this great machine!

I think my review was an 8.5 (roughly). First review ever posted and tried to be true and honest based on machines I've played.

I personally think it is impossible to give something a 10, especially on this site so it isn't flagged, but I think there should be some review updates based on code alone.

Love this game!!!

I agree a 10 is tough for any pin in my opinion but I did give my Munsters premium 9.3 I think it should be up around top 25 specially with the new code update it’s a beautiful n smooth shooter just a blast to play my friends n family loves it. Everyone go back and change your review let’s get it we’re it should be.

Been putting serious thought into selling or trading my pro after 3 years but not sure I can let it go.I suffer from serious sellers anxiety.

I just finished watching the deadflip stream of the code on the premium or Le and it looks to me like the issues I've seen are there.

Enlarging Ray was nearly constantly running and stacking with every single mode. Even though it wasn't clear what to do when that happens as enlarging Ray takes a back seat to whatever mode is currently running.

The process required to light Grandpa's scoop for going into the laboratory is what I'm seeing on the pro as Grandpa lit but not collecting things.

Finally deadflip was complaining about the ridiculously small super jackpot collection. I mean he was collecting more than I was and still only seeing 24 million. Glad he complained about that to Dwight directly.

That makes no sense. The jackpots should have been increased not decreased imo.

Agree, not sure what they were thinking. Collects that should be 60-70 mil are under 30

Since will still need a code update for Insider Connected....maybe some polish can be added as well....??

sure hope so. The massive nerf of the super collection is enough for me to not upgrade by itself. The grandpa issues are annoying but seems most people don't care that enlarging ray is nearly always running

I'm really surprised more people aren't upset about the super nerf. Kinda sucks to spend the time to stack 7 or 8 supers, get the playfield to 6x, then collect and just get 20-30 mil. That's not very "Super Duper" to me.

I am not sure what exactly enlarging ray does....

IMO... The "enlarging ray" video was just to make you aware for when the lower playfield's game ends and the real regulation ball rolls out.. It appears huge / enlarged.. That's my take on it.

Enlarging ray is the grandpa mode on the pro. you shoot the targets to light the orbits and ramps for jackpots and once you have collected 4 you get the grandpa super jackpot

I see Enlarging Ray on my LE....?

huh?

The enlarging ray is also a video clip on the Premium & LE editions. It pops up during the lower playfields play as i described above.

Yeah I'm aware, not sure what the question was.

I believe the correct answer is the enlarging ray has different meanings when your comparing what it means to a pro vs premium / LE where its connected to the lower playfield.