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$100k Whale Investor For licensed Game

By greatwichjohn

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    #401 1 year ago
    Quoted from ticktockman:

    Potential investors don't usually insinuate an investable client is possibly "crazy".

    Patently false. Potential investors are talking about the real world and thus are honest about ideas, the lack of plans and feasibility based on details. They aren’t here to make children ‘feel good about themselves.’

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    #402 1 year ago

    Pinball building costs a shitload of money. People have a idea of what the pieces costs. Throw in all the other services needed for a individual Big Whale pinball machine (Investor). If I was rich I would not care what people called my group.

    All the people here are really interested in seeing this finished. Even my local distributor was interested in doing cabinets, but did not have a good party to work with. The biggest thing people should get from this is TRUST. I have not screwed anyone over my life towards pinball. Your reputation is the biggest thing. It use to be many years ago 50% of millionaires had Grade 9 or less education. Same with money, some started with nothing, & went bankrupt.

    The Big Whale if found will be informed about the project, & if they have any personal input. I try to answer all questions, the problem is that maybe people do not see them. Another thing is March 2023 is a perfect time for getting a new 1 of a kind Licensed Pinball Machine into the public arena. SXSW in Austin is more than just music, TPF in Dallas is the #1 Show for pinball. As for Sharktank, do you think I would ever get on that show?

    #403 1 year ago
    Quoted from greatwichjohn:

    As for Sharktank, do you think I would ever get on that show?

    I think many would Pay Per Veiw to see that…

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    #404 1 year ago
    Quoted from greatwichjohn:

    Pinball building costs a shitload of money. People have a idea of what the pieces costs. Throw in all the other services needed for a individual Big Whale pinball machine (Investor). If I was rich I would not care what people called my group.
    All the people here are really interested in seeing this finished. Even my local distributor was interested in doing cabinets, but did not have a good party to work with. The biggest thing people should get from this is TRUST. I have not screwed anyone over my life towards pinball. Your reputation is the biggest thing. It use to be many years ago 50% of millionaires had Grade 9 or less education. Same with money, some started with nothing, & went bankrupt.
    The Big Whale if found will be informed about the project, & if they have any personal input. I try to answer all questions, the problem is that maybe people do not see them. Another thing is March 2023 is a perfect time for getting a new 1 of a kind Licensed Pinball Machine into the public arena. SXSW in Austin is more than just music, TPF in Dallas is the #1 Show for pinball. As for Sharktank, do you think I would ever get on that show?

    Nobody understands your pitch, so let’s break it down to easy questions for you to answer? Are you looking for an investor or a patron? An investor would kick in money to help productize something and get a return. A patron would be looking for you to build a one off. You keep mixing up your concepts, so which is it?

    For the 100 grand, what does that get? Is that for the person to basically kickstart your development of something you want to get a company to make? Or is it a one off machine?

    You talk about taking it to shows. Why? Are you trying to get people excited about the product to invest? What if I don’t want you to take my 100k machine for others to see and want to leave it in my house?

    Do you have a theme in place and you are looking for somebody that wants to get behind that or are you looking for somebody who wants a machine and think that would cover a build and a license?

    If you can not answer these types of questions, nobody is going to invest. I and others in this thread fit the profile for the type of investment you are looking for but you refuse to answer the questions.

    #405 1 year ago
    Quoted from skink91:

    You fucking serious? Dude is asking for $100k with no ability to answer what he is actually doing, and when I ask questions about it I am ‘grilling him’ and ‘being rude’?
    What kind of entitled bullshit world do you live in champ?

    Apparently his wife is a short order cook for him and his kids if the other thread is an indication.

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    #406 1 year ago

    Ironic, but perhaps fitting, that you use the term "whale".

    "Whales" are people with money that blow it on stupid shit. Like the guy who drops 50k at a casino to get comped a 1k room. Or a guy who spends 20k on FIFA Ultimate team cards. Or any (insert mobile game here)

    I get to play Call of Duty Warzone free because some idiots are dropping $20 a week buying stupid skins.

    Long story short, you're using a gaming industry term that pre-disposes that anyone who bites is a SUCKER.

    #407 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    Ironic, but perhaps fitting, that you use the term "whale".

    It might not be wise on John's part, but I believe it would be appropriate.

    #408 1 year ago

    Homebrew parts list

    I’m going to use round numbers because I have no clue…

    Finished cabinet $1000
    Custom playfield $1000
    P3 Controller $600
    Computer $500
    Displays $400
    Wiring $400
    Hardware $300
    Posts/rubber $100
    Flippers/Slingshots $300
    Drop targets $300
    Stand Ups $200
    Diverters $200
    VUK/Coils $200
    Trough area $200
    Ramps $200
    Metal guides $200
    Lighting $500
    Misc $500

    Parts total $7100

    Full retail off the shelf current pricing
    Does not include specialized tools such as slip roll, spot welder, arbor press, router, CNC, sanders, or spray booth.

    Coding, sound, and artwork extra…

    It has been said in the dev homebrew area that it ends up costing $12k but I imagine tooling and trial errors are included in that.

    I’m at $5k and still only have a box of parts…

    #409 1 year ago
    Quoted from LORDDREK:

    I’m at $5k and still only have a box of parts…

    Maybe you could party with the $95K left over ?

    LTG : )

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    #410 1 year ago
    Quoted from LORDDREK:

    Parts total $7100

    Beer: $92,900

    #411 1 year ago
    Quoted from LORDDREK:

    Coding, sound, and artwork extra…

    Don’t forget any custom mechanical engineering one just might expect on a modern pin (ramps, mechs, etc)

    The licensed IP, how much does the license holder get?

    The playfield design? It should be fun at least right? But anyone can design a well-shooting playfield right?

    And then the coding, sound, artwork… extra? I would guess at least 2/3rds of the project budget.

    #412 1 year ago
    Quoted from skink91:

    Don’t forget any custom mechanical engineering one just might expect on a modern pin (ramps, mechs, etc)
    The licensed IP, how much does the license holder get?
    The playfield design? It should be fun at least right? But anyone can design a well-shooting playfield right?
    And then the coding, sound, artwork… extra? I would guess at least 2/3rds of the project budget.

    Like I said: “Box of parts” Ballarama style. Gonna give me a red hot crack at it…

    #413 1 year ago

    Ok enough of this lazy ass day. Let me go try and fix a pinball machine with stone knives and bearskins…

    #414 1 year ago
    Quoted from jake35:

    The way you keep describing wealthy people and calling them whales is downright ridiculous.

    He's doing that on purpose, on the misguided belief that if he doesn't call them investors then he can avoid handing out a prospectus or detailed business plan.

    Seriously, John, how does your personal bankruptcy impact this? What assurances does anyone have that your creditors don't try to grab any money you solicited? Has the bankruptcy court approved this idea?

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    #415 1 year ago

    If you have money and someone approaches you to invest in pinball, take my advice... run away, as quickly and as far as humanly possible.

    #416 1 year ago

    I'm late to the party here, but the term you are looking for is "angel investor." A whale is something else unless there's another definition I'm not aware of.

    #417 1 year ago
    Quoted from Striker:

    Seriously, John, how does your personal bankruptcy impact this? What assurances does anyone have that your creditors don't try to grab any money you solicited? Has the bankruptcy court approved this idea?

    Typically a bankruptcy handles the creditors. The debtor gets a "fresh start". Think of the bankruptcy as a snapshot of the debtor's financial situation taken on the day the bankruptcy is filed. Any new endeavors are outside of the bankruptcy.

    #418 1 year ago
    Quoted from CryHavoc:

    I'm late to the party here, but the term you are looking for is "angel investor." A whale is something else unless there's another definition I'm not aware of.

    It's a fat investor.

    #419 1 year ago

    How much of the 100k is for the license? Asking for a friend

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    #420 1 year ago

    Do we know what the license is?

    #421 1 year ago
    Quoted from jonesjb:

    Do we know what the license is?

    "We" don't.

    #422 1 year ago
    Quoted from jonesjb:

    Do we know what the license is?

    it's a license to steal...

    #423 1 year ago
    Quoted from jake35:

    it's a license to steal...

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    #424 1 year ago
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    #425 1 year ago

    All the whales on pinside.

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    #426 1 year ago
    Quoted from LORDDREK:

    Homebrew parts list
    I’m going to use round numbers because I have no clue…
    Finished cabinet $1000
    Custom playfield $1000
    P3 Controller $600
    Computer $500
    Displays $400
    Wiring $400
    Hardware $300
    Posts/rubber $100
    Flippers/Slingshots $300
    Drop targets $300
    Stand Ups $200
    Diverters $200
    VUK/Coils $200
    Trough area $200
    Ramps $200
    Metal guides $200
    Lighting $500
    Misc $500
    Parts total $7100
    Full retail off the shelf current pricing
    Does not include specialized tools such as slip roll, spot welder, arbor press, router, CNC, sanders, or spray booth.
    Coding, sound, and artwork extra…
    It has been said in the dev homebrew area that it ends up costing $12k but I imagine tooling and trial errors are included in that.
    I’m at $5k and still only have a box of parts…

    If John and his wife pounds down $50 worth of beer a night at the pub, to me that could have been an order for parts at PBL or Marcos. 30 days @$50 = $1.5K/mn. In 6 months he could have CNC'd a PF and populated it (skip the artwork). Buy a beater 90's cabinet and bug the FAST or P-ROC guys for some loaner hardware after he shows them the PF. You don't even need a cabinet to test a prototype.

    #428 1 year ago
    Quoted from jonesjb:

    Do we know what the license is?

    Yes, its "Big Whale!"

    #429 1 year ago
    Quoted from jonesjb:

    Do we know what the license is?

    It has only been eluded to...

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    #430 1 year ago

    Only day 3 looking for a great whale or investor at $100k US. Some people in the know have a good idea of basic costs of about $10k US in material cost, more for bling, + assembly cost. There is also all the other costs involved in a one of a kind pimped out license pin. If a whale is found & they prefer the game not to be shown in Texas in March 2023. That will be ok with me.

    Again no money is going into my hands during my personal bankruptcy! No pre payment in full. If the whale is found the money will be be on performance levels of production. Want a phone call let me know for USA or Canada.

    This is only the early stage to see if a whale can be found. The other alternative is to use a proven home brew pin that has not gone into production. I am open to different ideas. People know how to reach me here or by phone.

    #431 1 year ago
    Quoted from greatwichjohn:

    Only day 3 looking for a great whale or investor at $100k US. Some people in the know have a good idea of basic costs of about $10k US in material cost, more for bling, + assembly cost. There is also all the other costs involved in a one of a kind pimped out license pin. If a whale is found & they prefer the game not to be shown in Texas in March 2023. That will be ok with me.
    Again no money is going into my hands during my personal bankruptcy! No pre payment in full. If the whale is found the money will be be on performance levels of production. Want a phone call let me know for USA or Canada.
    This is only the early stage to see if a whale can be found. The other alternative is to use a proven home brew pin that has not gone into production. I am open to different ideas. People know how to reach me here or by phone.

    "pimped out license" =

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    #432 1 year ago
    Quoted from greatwichjohn:

    Waiting back to see what base cabinet is available from American Pinball. If I go that route it will ship up to my local American Pinball Distributor

    In the time you wrote that post you could have made your own cabinet.

    This was made in a few hours with only Makita battery tools.

    Cost - around $100 worth of materials plus a used set of legs.

    It doesn’t cost $100,000 to make a one off machine. I can tell you first hand.

    rd

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    #433 1 year ago
    Quoted from jonesjb:

    Do we know what the license is?

    Quoted from greatwichjohn:

    Big Whales in the USA

    I'm visualizing it as sort of a mash-up of Spring Break and Rollercoaster Tycoon.

    #434 1 year ago

    Somebody send this man 100k already.

    #435 1 year ago
    Quoted from greatwichjohn:

    Only day 3 looking for a great whale or investor at $100k US. Some people in the know have a good idea of basic costs of about $10k US in material cost, more for bling, + assembly cost. There is also all the other costs involved in a one of a kind pimped out license pin. If a whale is found & they prefer the game not to be shown in Texas in March 2023. That will be ok with me.
    Again no money is going into my hands during my personal bankruptcy! No pre payment in full. If the whale is found the money will be be on performance levels of production. Want a phone call let me know for USA or Canada.
    This is only the early stage to see if a whale can be found. The other alternative is to use a proven home brew pin that has not gone into production. I am open to different ideas. People know how to reach me here or by phone.

    greatwichjohn what is the license? Do you have one in mind?

    #436 1 year ago

    So Chicago Gaming hasn’t been able to get me my Cactus Canyon LE machine that I ordered Nov 1 (8 months ago) and it looks like probably a few more months but you’re going to be able to finish this in that exact timeframe (8 months)????

    #437 1 year ago
    Quoted from Yesh23:

    So Chicago Gaming hasn’t been able to get me my Cactus Canyon LE machine that I ordered Nov 1 (8 months ago) and it looks like probably a few more months but you’re going to be able to finish this in that exact timeframe (8 months)????

    No, he said six months because he's not starting until September,.......or maybe after Octoberfest.

    #438 1 year ago

    As long as there are whales swimming around this thread I'd like a 65 or 66 Mustang. It will be a licensed theme, (and insured). What you'll receive is a lot of smiling pictures of me with my Mustang. I will bring it to TPF as well, unless you'd rather I not.

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    #439 1 year ago

    John, which part of "stop calling your potential investor a whale" is hard to understand?

    #440 1 year ago
    Quoted from jellikit:

    It has only been eluded to...

    Well, I could certainly get behind a game themed around orcas. Or, maybe one orca in particular.
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    #441 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pinbub:

    As long as there are whales swimming around this thread I'd like a 65 or 66 Mustang. It will be a licensed theme, (and insured). What you'll receive is a lot of smiling pictures of me with my Mustang. I will bring it to TPF as well, unless you'd rather I not.

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    #442 1 year ago
    Quoted from rotordave:

    It doesn’t cost $100,000 to make a one off machine. I can tell you first hand.

    Dave please don't bring logic into this thread or the moderators will need to ban you for 2 days!

    Now back to finding that 100k sucker, I mean whale!

    #443 1 year ago
    Quoted from Jamesays:

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    #444 1 year ago
    Quoted from greatwichjohn:

    Only day 3 looking for a great whale

    Just like Captain Ahab.

    After three days of chasing the White Whale, with Starbuck all the while trying in vain to make him see reason, Ahab is finally pulled into the sea to his death, with his crew following shortly after.

    Spoiler alert: The great white whale wind up drowning Captain Ahab.

    #445 1 year ago
    Quoted from greatwichjohn:

    Only day 3 looking for a great whale or investor at $100k US. Some people in the know have a good idea of basic costs of about $10k US in material cost, more for bling, + assembly cost. There is also all the other costs involved in a one of a kind pimped out license pin. If a whale is found & they prefer the game not to be shown in Texas in March 2023. That will be ok with me.
    Again no money is going into my hands during my personal bankruptcy! No pre payment in full. If the whale is found the money will be be on performance levels of production. Want a phone call let me know for USA or Canada.
    This is only the early stage to see if a whale can be found. The other alternative is to use a proven home brew pin that has not gone into production. I am open to different ideas. People know how to reach me here or by phone.

    Too many questions burning in poor Duder's brain to just spectate any more...

    Who specifically is designing the game layout?
    Who specifically will negotiate the license?
    Is Popadiuk involved in any capacity?
    If a whale pops up and says, they are interested. What's next? Is there a more detailed proposal ready to review?

    #446 1 year ago

    There is a whole sub forum of individuals who can build custom one off games for less than $5000. good luck and kudos for trying, but someone would have to be an idiot to do this. If there is someone out there, I'll build you any custom game you want for $25,000.

    #447 1 year ago
    Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:

    Somebody send this man 100k already.

    Is he signed up with Zelle?

    #448 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pinbub:

    As long as there are whales swimming around this thread I'd like a 65 or 66 Mustang. It will be a licensed theme, (and insured). What you'll receive is a lot of smiling pictures of me with my Mustang. I will bring it to TPF as well, unless you'd rather I not.

    Ok, I'll up the ante and take people on rides at TPF in the mustang. Steak and lobster dinner for the whale.

    #449 1 year ago
    Quoted from Octomodz:

    There is a whole sub forum of individuals who can build custom one off games for less than $5000. good luck and kudos for trying, but someone would have to be an idiot to do this. If there is someone out there, I'll build you any custom game you want for $25,000.

    Contact Jonesjb, he's either serious about jumping in or needs a tax write off.

    #450 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pinbub:

    Ok, I'll up the ante and take people on rides at TPF in the mustang. Steak and lobster dinner for the whale.

    Will you also throw in a Filet-O-Fish® combo meal for lunch?

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