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1 HEP grail pin or 2 modern Sterns?

By Patrunkenphat7

4 years ago


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    “HEP grail or 2 Sterns?”

    • HEP restored grail pin 104 votes
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    • 2 modern Sterns 137 votes
      57%

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    #23 4 years ago
    Quoted from Patrunkenphat7:

    For those who are saying that the HEP is more expensive that I estimated, what does HEP Twilight Zone cost? I was assuming somewhere around $12k-$13k based on the pricing estimate listed on the HEP website.

    You probably won’t ever get a real number out of that inquiry.
    A game that can use its original playfield and cabinet with stainless steel trim and a standard dmd won’t cost anywhere near what a game that gets a new cabinet,playfield,chrome ,colordmd and every mod available does.

    This is why I stick to labor cost only. That is the only variable I can figure out upfront.

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    #25 4 years ago
    Quoted from Patrunkenphat7:

    Ah the wizard himself! Big fan of your work!
    Makes sense, however based on the website it appears you also offer to do the whole process like finding a game that you think would be a solid restoration project. So if I were a customer and was like “hey I’m dying to get a HEP Twlight Zone and don’t currently have one, what’s the general range we’re looking at if you find me a game worth restoration?”

    Here are just two extreme hypothetical situations with TZ and it might help make it that much easier to understand

    1)
    I found a local HUO TZ that has a perfect cabinet and just a slightly dulled playfield.
    It was $4500 no shipping required to get it here.
    You want it to remain stock no mods
    $500 roughly in parts
    $4500 in labor since the cabinet doesn’t have to be completely redone just freshened up. The playfield will get torn down etc all the “HEP” stuff

    $9500 total in theory.

    2)
    Found a TZ that looks like a good candidate for $5500 it needs to be shipped $5950

    Comes in shows some slight moisture issues
    You want chrome,color dmd,LEDocd,LEDs,this robot,that figure,this clock cover,third magnet,clear ramp,new plastic set,light up star post etc etc
    Parts and mods $5500

    Labor $6500 plus an extra $500-$1000 depending on mod implementation,plating needs etc.

    You could have a $17-19k game in total and say “how expensive HEP is” but at the end of the day I only made $2000 more building the $19k game than I did building the $9.5k game.
    This is what few understand even the ones that spend the money sometimes.
    It isn’t about HEP beyond the process itself it is about needs and choices.

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