Actually these ones seem to have metal protectors where Tron did not..

I think with it moving, you'd have the ball pop off it regularly. About half of the TSPPs I have played on route would have the ball pop off the monorail once in a while, and I can't imagine that a moving ramp would do anything good for that reliability...

Stern have not made choosing easy!

Again if the Pro had same features and LE editions were special blinged out, I would buy the Pro for sure.

Such a shame no spinning magnet on Pro as otherwise would order.

If I go for an LE not even sure which one now. Think the edge goes to Magneto for color combo. But don't like the pop up toys as was expecting MM type.

Like a few others, will sleep on it!

My guess is after you lock three balls you shoot for the captive locks. After hitting the active ball with your fourth ball the magnet activated on the spinner mech. Spinner mech raises up revealing the slots for the captive balls. The captive balls drop out one by one. Spinner will spin to load the three balls all the while the fourth ball is still on top. Now if this multi ball sequence starts with one ball on top and three loaded down low, releasing all balls while spinning..... This will be the SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

Would be sweet, call Stern up, time to scrap the game and redo it all!

I'm sure it will look better in person but Tron, TF and AC/DC all looked a whole lot better to me....

Maybe you just can't make a comic book look good....however, the gameplay could be really great, the two ramps and magnet are SM laid out a little different and the spinning disc...we'll see

Layout: looks very fun and fast.

Cabinet: best art Stern has ever released

Playfield art: definitely a letdown. Lack of cohesion (look at the style of Sabertooth compared to Jugg, obviously just cut n paste from past works) and barren.

Toys/features: hard to say, but looks pretty good. Thought the Magneto toy might have a little more "wow" to it, same with Nightcrawler targets. Right ramp looks different and neat.

I'll be looking forward to playing one!

Do we know for sure it doesn't do this?

If they would have put Snow's pic of that a** on the pin, front and center, I'd be in!

In what?

If this is really how the spinner works, my decision to keep the LE is made. This would be an awesome way to start multi-ball. Thanks for giving me the vision of this sequence!

Kevin

Awesome!

That wouldn't make much sense since it's supposed to be Iceman's "ice trail" and all

I'm getting more and more happy with my Predator preorder

What do you think the notches are about in the moving ramp? Just for weight savings?

Most likley. Too bad that ramp couldn't be plastic!

does Tron have a big bash toy blocking 30 percent of playfield?

that and you can see through it somewhat? I keep worrying about it blocking the view of the upper right flipper as it swings around

Looks pretty cool, but I can say that i'm a little less jealous of everyone who gets one now that the pix are out. Really make me wonder what a JJP X-Men pin would look like...

Here's another example of a playfield with large toys that no one complains about.

I see X-Men being popular in the arcades, and part of that will be due to the toys. I've seen amazing transformations done on the cartoony Monster Bash characters so I'm sure A good artist could also detail out wolverine and that whole issue will cease to exist.

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When will we hear about how many modes, multiballs, balls, etc. will be with the game? Do they release that kind of stuff early on?

Ya but cyclops, iceman, and gambit look sweet

Considering the WOZ playfield is just as barren as XM, let's just agree to be disappointed by playfields from both companies from here on out.

Looks like a Danger Room mode (could be multiple), 7 Villain modes (inserts near flippers). Looks like a Dark Phoenix mode at the scoop. I imagine you collect the xmen from their respective shots and they light on the big x. Looks like lots of potential for good modes here.

I think I like the pro editions cabinet and back glass better then the LE versions.

If you look at the pix from the zip file, you can see that the ramp has metal reinforcement where the VUK drops it. That's good news.

Here are the differences -

http://www.pinballnews.com/games/xmen/index3.html

Yes can someone explain why the Magneto character depicted on the Backglass has red skin and purple 'clothing' (?) -- cape, arm gauntlets, etc. while the figure on the playfield is dressed in blue instead?

I wanted to chalk it up to lighting but I can't buy that. Ideas??

Regarding the LE playfield...

1- notice how the high-res pics showing the LE cabinets are populated with Pro playfields? It makes you wonder just how far along the LE pf development really is. That moving ramp almost looks photo-shopped into the pic.

I have no idea how they'll incorporate that movable ramp into gameplay. Is the ice-guy a villain? Could you imagine the chaos caused by the game randomly diverting the ball (by moving the ramp) after you'd made the ramp, potentially to outwit your otherwise stellar strategy that depended on feeding the right flipper? Too funny.

2- the spinning disk - I'm wondering how much it really will affect the ball movement. In Tron the surface is tacky - rubber-ish. It puts a ton of english on the ball. This spinning disk appears to be clearcoated.

Kind of strange to me that people are bagging on the plastic ramps. I always looked at that as the choice of the designer given the game design and not a cost thing. Do people call Scared Stiff cheap because of the ramps? I think it is awesome. How about CFTBL, WH2O or all the old Pat Lawlor games? To me some games look good with metal and some with plastic. I certainly don't see it as a detractor here. This game looks great to me.

I am not buying one, so I have no horse in this race.

John

what's between Wolverine and the sinkhole? Is there a shot underneath his right arm?

looks like the pro doesn't have button guards. new siderail or overlay sticker?

To those in the know........

Any idea how soon for some gameplay video as don't think I can decide now without seeing gameplay.

Thanks

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Oh, sorry. I thought it was a metal ramp and a magnetic thing. Duh!

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Iceman is a good guy. I think it's awesome borgy chose him for this toy. Suits iceman very well!

They took the shaker out for more mechanical toys. What are they besides a moving ramp. BDK had something simlar and that was there everyday model besides costco's.

sorry, I zoomed on the pics, Wolverine does not block as much as I thought, his arms gave me the impression that it was taking up all that room, but his waist only looks like 2" or so. Shot on both sides of Wolverine.

What is under/behind Magneto? does the ball go thru or just lock?

Definately have to see some video. It sure seems like the big pile of plastic wolverine blocks the view of the ramp entrance. And as mentioned...the moving ramp looks photoshopped as do the pop ups. Huge price difference between the Pro and LE too considering the LE does not even have a shaker.
The side by side shots of Xmen next to WOZ certainly are a contrast. Hmmm......

I like the art from the original source comics, better than doing art from a movie based on comics. Would love to see how this plays. The right ramp has got me curious. The figures don't bother me as I am used to seeing some big figures in machines. TOTAN, CC, CP, TSPP, FH all have big figures in them.

Like everything else, I can't wait to play one. That is the biggest part of reviewing any machine. Kind of like reviewing a movie just by the trailer or a car based on a photo and not driving it.

I should swap out the trim between Tron LE and Wolverine LE. Chrome on Wolverine LE would look bad ass and the blue on Tron just fits. Ya baby!

I think the magneto toy lOoks sweet!
Wolverine still to be determined.
Moveable ramp is awesome simply because it's tied to iceman!

Dude I think your on to something. Chrome wolverine will look sweet!

Next Question:

Who's in on a BULK order of Shakers if this thing really doesn't come with one??

How about we have Gexchange order like 200 shakers for us??

When is X-Men supposed to start shipping?

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Tell me something I don't know.
Ya Wolverine is begging for chrome trim. Too bad Stern abandoned it for powder coat.

One more qsn about the characters... is the female on the right sling plastic supposed to be Mystique?

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I'm in for a shaker as long as it supports one.

If it's the same chrome coating as it was on Tron I'll pass. My Tron LE siderails tarnished where my thumbs sit after 4 months.... Had to get a new set from Stern.

Cointaker has the pinside discount which brings one from him down to 180.

I had to get a new set from Stern as well. That is why they stopped doing them. It cost more than powder coating and they had too many issues with it.