(Topic ID: 249374)

Pioneer stuck on first ball


By Crustyknuckle

9 days ago



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#1 9 days ago

Hello all, my Pioneer is still stuck on first ball after I've looked the machine over, won't go into 2nd player, starts ok scores okay until ball drains, hits trough switch, p energizes score runs but player unit doesn't advance from player 1 ball 1 position, have checked tightened cleaned ax bx cx etc, score reels resetting correctly and switches look ok, player unit and bonus unit and replay halfmoon unit were all bound up initially but both are moving properly now, still fun to play heck can't lose, fun to see how many balls it takes before a newbee notices

#2 8 days ago

I don't have that schematic, so going off Target Alpha: Check the Make/Break on H (Tilt Hold relay). Also take a REAL close look at the M/Bs on the AX; they're notoriously tetchy and can look ok but not be.

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#3 8 days ago

Checked out tilt hold and no change, went into ax again and before really getting into it had a leaf break so need to order a couple, will update thanks

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#4 8 days ago

If the Add Player Unit solenoid doesn't activate when the Add Player Unit relay (P) does, Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires
http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features

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#5 7 days ago

Hi Crustyknuckle
in post-1 You write "(pin) won't go into 2nd player" --- what does the pin do when You play a ONE-Player-Game ? IF (if, if) it also stays stuck in Ball-1 over and over: I join currieddog and ask about the AX-Relay switches --- You toggle-on the pin, U-first-ball-Relay must pull-in and stay pulling --- You start a new game, U-Relay must let go --- You launch the very first ball and make points, the U-Relay must pull-in and stay pulling. You play the very first ball, loose the ball --- see the bottom of HowardR 's JPB: Switch named "U" is closed as the U-Relay is pulling --- the Add-Player-Unit does step (when other stuff is working). Greetings Rolf

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