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** NEW: SlingSpot - GI reinforcement range **

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5 years ago


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    #1 5 years ago

    Targeted GI reinforcement. Extra punch where you need it. None where you don't.

    A new range of light boards for specific GI boosting.

    Slingshot mounted models..

    Need more visibility at the business end of your machine? Want to remove post mounted spotlights from above your plastics?

    SlingSpot
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    Attach directly to slingshot switch bases and blast your lower playfield where it counts..The bit where you need to see the ball.
    LEDs sit below the plastics, either side of each sling switch and above and below the slingshot rubber.
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    SlingSpot Slim
    For many Bally/WMS and Data East machines that only have a half inch playfield hole for the sling switches. The narrower form factor can be manoeuvred into place through the small opening.
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    Or positioned anywhere you want..
    Surgical placement of GI reinforcement, right where you need it, and only where you need it.

    The Sniper
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    A three-LED tower that can go almost anywhere and face any direction. Kill your shadows, not your eyeballs.

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    Built to last..

    Industrial componentry
    Not your average Chinese LED. These are top shelf CREE LEDs that can put through up to 50mA per colour channel.
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    AC/DC powered, polarity agnostic. Just plug the damned things into something and get going.

    Schottky diode equipped bridge rectifiers get you all the voltage, all the time.
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    Coupled with a monster 2200uF aluminium capacitor so peak AC voltage equals your constant DC voltage. 6 plus volts of DC goodness pumping through every light source every second of play.
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    Colour temp adjustment
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    You like it warm? Just turn the knob. Match your boost units to your current GI bulb preference in seconds. From ice cold through sunlight and into mellow yellow..no need for your reinforcement to look out of character.
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    Comet Matrix compatible connectors.
    2mm pitch, 2pin JST connectors so you can chain up with your existing Comet strips.
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    Plug anywhere
    I swore I would never do it, but you don’t seem to care, so for the first time ever on a redshiftLED product...drum roll...
    Alligator clips!!! Yes, don’t worry about sparks or shorts or electrocuting yourself, just clip on to the nearest exposed bit of wire and see what happens! I’ve built so much capacity into these things that you could plug them into Three Mile Island and still win. Try to blow them up. I dare you.
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    These lights are built for one single purpose. To increase the amount of illumination on the ball so you can see IT. They shine SIDEWAYS. AT the ball. Not through the plastics, not onto your artwork, not onto your ramps and not into your eyes. Don’t expect to be able to see your machine from space, just expect to be able to see the ball from your head.
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    Stock..
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    With SlingSpot..
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    Available next week at ...redshiftLED

    ...redshiftLED...shipping product within 24 hours of receiving your money since 2015.

    #2 5 years ago

    More pics

    LED photography is tricky. Before and after shots can be easily "edited". Here are three shots taken in direct sequence as the SlingSpots are added.

    First is stock, then left side added then right side..
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    #6 5 years ago
    Quoted from tilted81:

    Man, I’d love some for my maiden!

    Here are pics in Iron Maiden showing a comparison of the opposite ends of the cool-warm spectrum..

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    #10 5 years ago

    Now don't expect a big flood of light onto your artwork. These aren't shining that way. Here are some videos of me rolling the ball around with my hand on the playfield. Notice how the visibility of the ball picks up and how well lit my hand is.

    You can even play the videos together!

    Stock

    With SlingSpot

    Tron Stock..
    Notice where the factory spotlights come in. You can see the border.

    With SlingSpot..
    Factory spots still on, but no light border on the PF

    #11 5 years ago

    Here's where they go in..
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    Installed..
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    #13 5 years ago

    Just finalising that now, but shooting for around $11-$12 a stick, give or take.

    #15 5 years ago

    I’m going to do other form factors. Because they can go anywhere, I just need to make sure that the LEDs can peep through a gap and get to the playfield.

    Here are some SlingSpots being used to peek around playfield targets. I will do some shapes that get more LEDs around the outsides of targets, etc.
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    #16 5 years ago

    Spike games don't need the capacitor obviously. I may or may not make Spike specific models without the cap. They will be a little cheaper. You also don't technically *need* the cap on other games that are hooked onto the AC GI, but it pumps the voltage by about 40%. My Tron is reading 7V DC out of the 6V AC source.

    #34 5 years ago

    What's a guy gonna do on a Friday night while everyone's at expo?

    #36 5 years ago
    Quoted from cougtv:

    So I can buy some today?
    Your web site is a tease with slingspots for aliens, but not for Jims!
    Take my money, and probably a red dmd apron (unless you have black) and probably a replacement dmd for the one I broke. Will look further into why the row is out tomorrow!
    Anxiously awaiting more of your neat stuff!

    A couple more days. I’m just getting some final production process things in place. And my connectors have been delayed. I was expecting them Friday. Looks like they arrive tomorrow.
    I only have the Stern ones ready to go. I’m still tweaking the WMS model for proper fit in the small holes. WMS will be a week or two.

    #37 5 years ago

    Argh, my reflow oven shat itself over the weekend. Poor little guy was working way above his pay grade, lol. I am making one set at a time in limp mode here so will be able to dribble some out over this week, but full production will have to wait until next week when the new oven arrives.

    First sets will be listed as available to ship tomorrow.

    #38 5 years ago

    Final production prototypes of the narrow are in. Tommy is the only machine I have on site with the small switch holes, so here goes..
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    I must say, I do like the way that they look like they really mean business.

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    #39 5 years ago

    I warmed them a bit before installing, but they still went in a bit cool...

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    Adjust..

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    That's better..
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    #40 5 years ago

    My GI circuit reads 5.8VAC. I am 6.2VDC after the rectifier.

    #42 5 years ago

    In the store now. Only a few sets because of the oven burn out, but there will be permanent stock.

    http://redshiftled.com.au/Store.php#!/SlingSpot-For-Stern/p/120277484/category=31800669

    #45 5 years ago
    Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

    Whoops, I’m bad at math. Guessing each kit is for one game as there are two in each sling. Tron and TWD it is then

    You can experiment with one on each sling..but I’m pretty sure you’re going to want both pumping.

    #50 5 years ago
    Quoted from EalaDubhSidhe:

    Here's a question. With a slingshot you have the hammer in between the two switches, but what if you want to use a few more elsewhere in other score switch holes behind rubbers? What's the best way to ensure the ball doesn't clobber them?

    I'm testing places all around the playfield. Small standups like at ramp entrances aren't going to work because you will exactly snap them off. In other places I can't really seem to get the ball to go anywhere near them. I have generally been thinking about an optional back brace to prevent structural damage from possible impact, or a polycarbonate screen for the front, but am yet to feel a screaming need.

    Could you clarify the sort of position you mean? Maybe a pic?

    #52 5 years ago
    Quoted from EalaDubhSidhe:

    Well for example, on a game where you typically get a rubber on each side above the outlanes, angled to bounce the ball across to the other side. Point switches are often found in there.

    These sorts of places? Or am I being obtuse? I've got that one you can see there in my Maiden. Ball doesn't get close.

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    #53 5 years ago

    Stock..
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    #55 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    any issues with strobbing on any games?

    Not yet. I doubt there's any chance of that with those caps.

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    #59 5 years ago
    Quoted from AUKraut:

    How will the Sniper version mount if you put it between standup targets? Will it include some kind of mounting bracket?

    Yes. Brackets are the bain of my existence. You would think they would be easy to find, but noooo. I am getting some quoted to get made. I have a few trial versions like these below. But I'm not 100% happy with them. They work, but aren't what I really want to be shipping.

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    #60 5 years ago
    Quoted from koops:

    Just got my spots today.
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    Only installed one of four so far so I can dial in the right color (too yellow out of the box for me).

    Yeah the factory positioning of the trim pot is in the middle, so most people will probably straight away want to go cooler.

    #62 5 years ago
    Quoted from koops:

    Not sure about the warmer color on the left but thought I’d try it anyway. Makes it a little green

    I think I'm going to redden up the warm end of the spectrum a bit. I just have to throttle the green channel a bit. It will technically be at the expense of a small level of brightness, but I can't tell the difference while testing.

    If you want to send one back I'll replace it with a redder one, or you can just pop off the 49ohm resistor on the green line and put a 100 there.

    #65 5 years ago

    Well, cancel the bally/WMS version. It was a nice idea, but I overlooked that the sling switches on those are riveted to the bracket. No one is going to bother drilling rivets to install. Oh well. Sigh. Still good for Data East so I'll run the narrows for them.

    #69 5 years ago
    Quoted from koops:

    Would there be any difference between what you’d be making for the data east ones vs Wms/Bally?

    No, they are the same, designed to go through a standard GI bulb hole.

    #73 5 years ago
    Quoted from db666:

    They're about 14mm diagonally

    That will probably be just too tight for the normal ones. Narrows will slide in no worries.

    #74 5 years ago
    Quoted from steigerpijp:

    There are some out there who would
    My Kill Bill could really use some extra directer GI

    Well, don’t write this idea off either. Not the greatest engineering, but works 100%.

    And I think the rivets are smaller and flatter than these screws I put there for illustration.

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    #77 5 years ago
    Quoted from AUKraut:

    TimeBandit: what's the latest on availability on these???? My BM66 needs some Slingspots and Snipers......

    About to list more stock. A few days. Just waiting on the cables.

    #79 5 years ago
    Quoted from Fytr:

    Any thoughts to a complete IMDN kit offering - ideally at a huuuge discount for Cdn $ purchasers ?
    Also, on IMDN how are you powering these? My understanding is the node boards won't tolerate much in the way of excess load.
    Nice work, btw!

    They are currently powered directly from the GI circuit. I initially built an isolation unit to run extra LEDs off the 12V extension header, with switching from the GI circuit, but I really don't think it's necessary. 8 LEDs won't kill it. Each board at full cool is 150mA. 600mA for the four of them is ok. 3 watts.

    I can always provide isolation units, but doubt people will want the extra spend.

    #81 5 years ago
    Quoted from AUKraut:

    I'm thinking 8 LEDs for my BM66: 4 SlingSpots at the Slingshots, 2 Snipers in the GADGET targets, 2 Snipers in the TV targets....too much for the Spike 2 GI??

    I would start to think about isolation if you're getting up to and over an amp. I might revisit and put one together.

    #84 5 years ago
    Quoted from Silverbak:

    I think WOZ is a candidate for these, slings and snipers
    Is it OK to run them off the 12V DC that WOZ uses for its spotlights?

    I would have to do a 12V version. Easy enough to do. I'll run a few if I can confirm they fit.

    #88 5 years ago
    Quoted from Gov:

    Ah I see now that the website says Stern SAM, not Spike. Kinda confusing with the picture showing Iron Maiden. Can we remove the caps to get them to work with Spike games?

    Yes, just drop the caps off. I am redoing the store right now and will have SAM and Spike listed seperately.

    #91 5 years ago

    For node isolation purists (me included) I am also putting together a power/isolation unit for spike that will power off the 12v aux power and trigger off the GI.
    It’s not really necessary but for a few bucks it will be a peace of mind thing.

    #96 5 years ago
    Quoted from Atari_Daze:

    Damn, can't believe I've not seen these until today.
    Did I miss availability on the slims? I have a Bally 6803 Motordome I about to restore that is desperate for more lighting, these look like they would fit the bill!

    Slims are a couple more days away.

    #97 5 years ago
    Quoted from Fytr:

    You'd need a relay to switch them on/off when a connected bulb does.

    Yep, that’s exactly what it will do. Plug into power, clip onto trigger.

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