Quick question about MM playfields. I just picked up a MM, and it's evident that someone put in a new pf. There is a holographic sticker that says "Williams Authorized Replacement" and then some serial number starting with "PPS..." which I thought might be Planetary Pinball.

Does anyone know if this is a NOS or Mirco pf, or maybe something else?

Yes, I understand that. But, were there not NOS ones available, and if so, would they have had this sticker on them?

There is no "Mirco" stamp on the pf, so I am just wondering who manufactured this.

Here you go.

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Based on photo above, that shooter lane is looking a lot like a Mirco.

I'll wait for him to chime in.

One of my trolls is not registering hits at all. I took it apart tonight, reassembled, and no change unfortunately.

I have one of these extra trolls:

http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPS-A-21744

The connector is different though. It has a 3 pin, which I assume it for the remake.

Am I am to desolder the connectors, and then just solder the ones on from my broken troll?

There is a diode on the broken one. Do I need to put a diode on the new part?

Or can I just solder the connectors to the lugs?

Everything else that is working fine. I took the troll apart last night, and the switch basically fell apart. I reassembled it, but now it's not registering hits at all.

Before I took it apart, it wasn't registering hits from that ball, but I could manually close the switch to register a hit.

I have a feeling it might be the troll that is the issue, so I'm going to take my chances putting the replacement in.

Any tips on how to get the diode onto the lug with the wire (since trying to do the diode after the wire usually just heats up the wire and it drops off).

Should I wrap wire around the lug, and the solder together with diode?

Replaced the troll with my new one and everything now works perfectly.

Only issue now is I have one troll with lit eyes and the other without. What to do, what to do?

I recall hearing someone say that there was swearing in the original game which was bleeped out in the remake. Is this true?

Anyone have an original playfield for sale? Not looking for retro.

Please let me know.

Does anyone have a shaker installed on their MM original?

Curious to know if it reacts like the MMR one? Does it go off during castle explosion? When trolls come out? Catapult launch?

Also, do you have to do any game software updating to run it?

Thanks

Yup! You're missing the moat.

This is what you need:

http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPS-A-21703

If I'm not mistaken, you will need to change the wiring harness, as they're now making these to go with MMR. LTG can confirm this though.

Does only the right flipper scroll through the F-I-R-E and lane bonus inserts above pop bumpers?

Seems my game only allows me to scroll using the right, and the skill shot can only be done holding the left flipper down, and pressing launch.

I could swear my MMR letstyou do it with either flipper.

And lastly, when I start a multiball madness that includes trolls in it, the game flashes "danger" right as it launches the first ball. Doesn't seem to do this when the multiball is started without trolls.

Any thoughts as to what this might be?

You are absolutely right. The left flipper only triggers one switch in the testing. The right flipper triggers two.

Here's a photo of the flipper on the left side. Anything stand out as unusual from this photo?

Any suggestions on what I should look for to get both switches working on the left side?

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Optos are fine. Figured out that when flipper is pushed, the two plastic legs that open and close the opto, where not coming out enough. I took it out shave it down a bit, and now it clears the opto path.

One problem remaining... The "danger" warning goes off every time I start Multiball Madness. I haven't had a chance to do much process of elimination, but I think it only happens when the multiball is started and troll and catapult are lit.

Seems kinda weird.

Anyone have ant thoughts on this?

Yup. Flashes "danger" and the sound effect plays.

Only does it once. Seems to somehow be connected to Catapult, and goes off when this is lit when starting a multiball madness.

I took out the tilt Bob, and it still happens

One other strange activity I've noticed is that during Royale Madness, if you hit catapult, you get credited for the hot, and then get credited again when the ball launches out of the catapult.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Hmmmm... I replaced one of the trolls with a newer one from the remake, so had to change wiring tonite, and put on a diode.

Could that be related to the catapult?

Pretty sure I did it right, but I'll pull it out when I have a chance and check. Right now, enjoying this new MET code

I really don't recall. The troll wasn't registering any hits, so I was more focused on that.

Is there any way to use a DMM to test if a diode is on properly?

I have the game in a part of my room where there ceilings are too low to fully raise the pf, but I'll pull it out when. I have some time (where I'd prefer fixing pinball over playing) and I'll see if I can figure out what is causing this.

The game still plays fine. It's just a bit annoying to keep getting that "danger" warning!

What if the diode had a cold solder. Would it have this sort of issue potentially that I'm seeing? I was thinking the multimeter could be used just to confirm that it's connected. Would a simple continuity test tell me this?

And I will definitely use my eyes to check the orientation of these wires.

LTG you were right as always!

Seems I put the diode on reverse. Can anything happen by playing it this way, aside from triggering the annoying"danger" on my tilt?

I'm planning to get it there and fix it up, but probably not for another few days.

Still ok to play it though?

so no damage could occur from this? I would just have the annoyance of it registering an error?

Awesome to know. Just learned something new

Thank you!

Planning to change lighting to LED, and wanted to know if other members used an OCD board, or had good luck just using non-ghosting bulbs?

Is there any way to tell if the playfield is an original?

I know Mirco has a "genuine replacement parts" hologram on the bottom, along with his signature shooter lane style.

Not sure if IPB marked theirs.

But did they original have any product codes or stampings to indicate they were original?