Then you have a problem elsewhere if your troll is wired right. A new one won't help.

Look at the switch matrix in your manual. A broken wire on the same row or column will kill other switches.

LTG : )

Everything else that is working fine. I took the troll apart last night, and the switch basically fell apart. I reassembled it, but now it's not registering hits at all.

Before I took it apart, it wasn't registering hits from that ball, but I could manually close the switch to register a hit.

I have a feeling it might be the troll that is the issue, so I'm going to take my chances putting the replacement in.

Any tips on how to get the diode onto the lug with the wire (since trying to do the diode after the wire usually just heats up the wire and it drops off).

Should I wrap wire around the lug, and the solder together with diode?

Not rocket science. A leaf blade switch, when closed together creates a continuous electrical circuit. Put a meter on it and see if it works. If so, then be sure it is wired right. Compare to the other working troll. And check for broken wires inside the wire casing you can't see.

Diode has long leads. Stick that on first, then bend the lead over the lug a bit, stick the end of the wire in the hole on the lug or wrap around the lug/diode lead. Flow solder on diode lead/wire/lug at the same time.

LTG : )

Replaced the troll with my new one and everything now works perfectly.

Only issue now is I have one troll with lit eyes and the other without. What to do, what to do?

Cut wires to working one. Or check LEDs in eyes and then wiring to other one. Your choice.

LTG : )

I recall hearing someone say that there was swearing in the original game which was bleeped out in the remake. Is this true?

The original had a hacked ROM if you could find it that unbleeped the F word.

Since the remake copied the Williams stuff and not hacks, and doesn't have ROMs, no unbleeped F word.

LTG : )
Disclaimer : The bleeped version is funnier anyway.

I'm looking for a merlin hole protector. Pinbits has shown sold out and has gone silent. If anyone has a lead on one please let me know.

https://mantispinball.com/product/medieval-madness-protector-set/

LTG : )

Matt's Basement Arcade on pinside carries it, 1.09C rom

LTG,

Thank you. For some reason I never saw that. All ordered and waiting.

Hey everyone. Looking for some help here. My trolls seem to more often not work than work. When I power the machine up and go test, I can hear the 'buzz' of them trying to engage, but they don't raise. When I go inside the cab and jostle them around a bit then go back to test they will then raise and lower. Thoughts? It is almost like they may not be getting enough power? Was also thinking an alignment issue, but given both are not functioning right, I doubt that. Thanks for any insight.

A couple things to check. Has the troll carriage separated from the collar holding it to the plunger ? Remove the plunger, it is two pieces held together by a roll pin, is the pin sticking out and dragging in the coil sleeve. Is the coil sleeve cracked or broken ?

LTG : )

Thank you so much. Just looking at the whole mechanism more closely made me realize it was an alignment issue because of loose/missing screws causing the coil to be not properly aligned. Tightened it all up and added a couple of missing screws and all appears well in the troll world.

Thank you for directing me towards the obvious. One of these days I'll get it all figured out.

Anyone have an original playfield for sale? Not looking for retro.

Please let me know.

Does anyone have a shaker installed on their MM original?

Curious to know if it reacts like the MMR one? Does it go off during castle explosion? When trolls come out? Catapult launch?

Also, do you have to do any game software updating to run it?

Thanks

No.

You'd have to update MM if you want a shaker to work like in MMR. But there isn't an update for MM so you could do this. On MMR, it's in the CGC software, not in the Williams.

LTG : )

Just bought this 1997 Williams original. But I keep losing the balls. Is there supposed to be a part here?

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https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/03-9681.6 A whole moat goes there under the playfield. Not a broken one.

LTG : )

Yup! You're missing the moat.

This is what you need:

http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPS-A-21703

If I'm not mistaken, you will need to change the wiring harness, as they're now making these to go with MMR. LTG can confirm this though.

And looks like everybody is out of them.

LTG : )

Oh come on, you are pulling our legs! And no you shouldn’t fill your cabinet with water to make a real moat !

Bahahahaha!! Assuming you're pulling our legs...

...and if you're not...

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Looks like it’s out of pinball fluid, about 40 gallons should do, pour it straight into the moat hole though, don’t want to get any on the playfield ... also, put some green dye in the fluid for a creepy effect!

New LED compatible, will help with the flashers

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OK, I'll come clean. A buddy was over and we were having beers. I took my moat out earlier in the day to fix a crack (again!) Through all the beer, somehow this became funny. I didn't mean to take advantage of anybody's good nature and I apologize.

The super cool thing is, guys jumped right in to help. Especially Lloyd who is akways there for us. I actually do need a new moat, so I appreciate the links.

The second cool thing is that some of you guys saw through it and cut right back to me with your green fluid jokes. That was awesome.

Again, I apologize and will be sure to not let the beer talk in the future! I love this community and hope you guys can take a little laugh as intended.

Now, got to get all this motor fluid outta my machine.... Again, good one.

And thank you for not down-posting me! I probably deserved it…

Does only the right flipper scroll through the F-I-R-E and lane bonus inserts above pop bumpers?

Seems my game only allows me to scroll using the right, and the skill shot can only be done holding the left flipper down, and pressing launch.

I could swear my MMR letstyou do it with either flipper.

And lastly, when I start a multiball madness that includes trolls in it, the game flashes "danger" right as it launches the first ball. Doesn't seem to do this when the multiball is started without trolls.

Any thoughts as to what this might be?

If I could upvote this twice, I’d be guns a blazin!

You should be able to use both flippers, go to switch test, each flipper button should have two switches

You are absolutely right. The left flipper only triggers one switch in the testing. The right flipper triggers two.

Here's a photo of the flipper on the left side. Anything stand out as unusual from this photo?

Any suggestions on what I should look for to get both switches working on the left side?

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I would clean optos reset plug and put business card and switch to break beam, and then switch right and left boards to see if problem followed board

Replace the bad opto.

Tests - Switch Edge - Pass something between each opto one at a time to figure out the bad one.

LTG : )

Optos are fine. Figured out that when flipper is pushed, the two plastic legs that open and close the opto, where not coming out enough. I took it out shave it down a bit, and now it clears the opto path.

One problem remaining... The "danger" warning goes off every time I start Multiball Madness. I haven't had a chance to do much process of elimination, but I think it only happens when the multiball is started and troll and catapult are lit.

Seems kinda weird.

Anyone have ant thoughts on this?

Is it a tilt warning?

Yup. Flashes "danger" and the sound effect plays.

Only does it once. Seems to somehow be connected to Catapult, and goes off when this is lit when starting a multiball madness.

I took out the tilt Bob, and it still happens

One other strange activity I've noticed is that during Royale Madness, if you hit catapult, you get credited for the hot, and then get credited again when the ball launches out of the catapult.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Switch matrix issue. Something is wired incorrectly or a diode is backwards.

Hmmmm... I replaced one of the trolls with a newer one from the remake, so had to change wiring tonite, and put on a diode.

Could that be related to the catapult?

I'd put it in switch test mode and start hitting switches to make sure only the correct one is registering, start with the troll you replaced then the catapult and tilt Bob and all other switches in those rows and columns.

Yes. Wire in wrong spot or diode on backwards, or a short to wiring, can make weird switch matrix issues. Your tilt is on the switch matrix.

Compare to the other troll. White wire and black end of diode to a lug, green wire to a lug. Silver band end of a diode to a lug.

LTG : )

Yup, follow Lloyd’s post. He’s got it as usual.

Pretty sure I did it right, but I'll pull it out when I have a chance and check. Right now, enjoying this new MET code

If problem started right after that repair. I'd start there.

LTG : )

I really don't recall. The troll wasn't registering any hits, so I was more focused on that.

Is there any way to use a DMM to test if a diode is on properly?

I have the game in a part of my room where there ceilings are too low to fully raise the pf, but I'll pull it out when. I have some time (where I'd prefer fixing pinball over playing) and I'll see if I can figure out what is causing this.

The game still plays fine. It's just a bit annoying to keep getting that "danger" warning!

Eyes work better. To get a DMM in there would be more work than looking at the thing and wouldn't say if you got the wires right. Look at the other troll or every stand up target in your game. White wire black end of diode there, green wire there, silver band end of the diode there. Same on every switch except the stripes on the wires may be different colors but the base color of white or green is the same.

LTG : )

What if the diode had a cold solder. Would it have this sort of issue potentially that I'm seeing? I was thinking the multimeter could be used just to confirm that it's connected. Would a simple continuity test tell me this?

And I will definitely use my eyes to check the orientation of these wires.

No.

Unplug the troll head switch connector. If problem goes away you screwed something up.

LTG : )

LTG you were right as always!

Seems I put the diode on reverse. Can anything happen by playing it this way, aside from triggering the annoying"danger" on my tilt?

I'm planning to get it there and fix it up, but probably not for another few days.

Still ok to play it though?

No damage on a switch like that - you are good to go.