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----- Creed of the low end pin man --------------


By dasvis

5 years ago



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    #51 5 years ago

    I would have told them, i'll haul it away for you to get it out of there, but I wouldn't have paid money for it. Just the hassle of hauling wasn't even worth the time. And you would still have a story to tell.

    #52 5 years ago

    I think this started on BYOAC

    Its been modified a bit tho to keep up w/the times

    #53 5 years ago

    If I am drinking 12 year old scotch (instead of my preferred 15) while playing my HEP Medieval Madness with one LED burned out and having to fetch my own caviar because my butler is off tonight, do I still qualify as a L.E.P. man?

    #54 5 years ago
    Quoted from GSones:

    If I am drinking 12 year old scotch (instead of my preferred 15) while playing my HEP Medieval Madness with one LED burned out and having to fetch my own caviar because my butler is off tonight, do I still qualify as a L.E.P. man?

    No.

    #55 5 years ago
    Quoted from GSones:

    If I am drinking 12 year old scotch (instead of my preferred 15) while playing my HEP Medieval Madness with one LED burned out and having to fetch my own caviar because my butler is off tonight, do I still qualify as a L.E.P. man?

    It makes you.........................wait for it.......................HEP Man! (Anti-Hero of LEP man)

    Ken

    #56 5 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    Well, Jubilee & Darling are the standards for EM LEP pins.

    I picked up a Williams Jubilee for free to save it from being parted out. The backlass is cracked, the cabinet is delaminating, the playfield has some kind of tar on it, but I will make it work anyway. That creed speaks to my personal philosophy for sure.

    I worked this out a few weeks ago. My average pin price has been about $150. Rescue 911 blew the number up at a whopping $400. Melody Lane from 1960 was $75.

    #57 5 years ago
    Quoted from JoeNewberry:

    I picked up a Williams Jubilee for free to save it from being parted out. The backlass is cracked, the cabinet is delaminating, the playfield has some kind of tar on it, but I will make it work anyway. That creed speaks to my personal philosophy for sure.
    I worked this out a few weeks ago. My average pin price has been about $150. Rescue 911 blew the number up at a whopping $400. Melody Lane from 1960 was $75.

    Cool.
    Make that Jubilee into a "rat rod" pin project. Rusty bent legs, taped backglass, beat up coin door, etc. - but make it all work & play as it should. Then take it to a show.........

    #58 5 years ago
    Quoted from JoeNewberry:

    I will make it work anyway.

    And we will try to sell the mice at the pet store.

    #59 5 years ago

    I would love to get into EM's one day, and I expect I will. At the moment I am in it for what I played as a kid. If it follows the pattern of my tast in music, which is as I get older my taste goes backwards to well beonde before I was born, then I will be coming around soon. I definitely respect EM as great works of art at the moment but haven't found the enjoyment I get from playing a SS. I guess like fine wine your palet has to develop to appreciate the fine things in life.

    #60 5 years ago

    1. I was paid $100 to remove a Jack In The Box from someone's basement who was moving and needed it out. The game only needed a fuse, rubber and a good cleaning.

    2. I drove 90 miles to pick up a Bally Freedom for $20.00. The backglass was shot, but all the game itself needed was a good cleaning.

    3. I bought a Cowpoke machine for a few dollars. The game at the time had vines growing through it. The PF was planked and the cabinet had dry rot. Brought that back from the dead and it gets the most play of any machine I own.

    4. I have a backglass for Central Park that was picked out of the garbage.

    I'm the definition of the low end pin man.

    #61 5 years ago
    Quoted from jjpm:

    1. I was paid $100 to remove a Jack In The Box from someone's basement who was moving and needed it out. The game only needed a fuse, rubber and a good cleaning.
    2. I drove 90 miles to pick up a Bally Freedom for $20.00. The backglass was shot, but all the game itself needed was a good cleaning.
    3. I bought a Cowpoke machine for a few dollars. The game at the time had vines growing through it. The PF was planked and the cabinet had dry rot. Brought that back from the dead and it gets the most play of any machine I own.
    4. I have a backglass for Central Park that was picked out of the garbage.
    I'm the definition of the low end pin man.

    Yeah! right on. Hardcore LEP man

    #62 5 years ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    And we will try to sell the mice at the pet store.

    Jubilee was infested with dirt dobbers.

    Now Bronco was full of rats:

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    In retrospect, I think maybe I should have bought some heatshrink tubing, but I'm sure not going to cut and resolder all those wires to put it on now.

    #63 5 years ago
    Quoted from jjpm:

    2. I drove 90 miles to pick up a Bally Freedom for $20.00. The backglass was shot, but all the game itself needed was a good cleaning.

    I'm the definition of the low end pin man.

    Watch out! I got down voted for having a Freedom!

    #64 5 years ago
    Quoted from electricsquirrel:

    Watch out! I got down voted for having a Freedom!

    That is an outrage!

    #65 5 years ago
    Quoted from JoeNewberry:

    Jubilee was infested with dirt dobbers.
    Now Bronco was full of rats:
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    In retrospect, I think maybe I should have bought some heatshrink tubing, but I'm sure not going to cut and resolder all those wires to put it on now.

    Those dicks!

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    #66 5 years ago
    Quoted from JoeNewberry:

    I think maybe I should have bought some heatshrink tubing

    Heatshrink tubing is great for keeping wires under control.

    I used it for my flipper wiring "personal mod" in a separate post.

    #67 5 years ago
    Quoted from jjpm:

    I'm the definition of the low end pin man.

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    #68 5 years ago
    Quoted from electricsquirrel:

    Watch out! I got down voted for having a Freedom!

    "Those guys are ****!"

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    #69 5 years ago

    Hey Stu, where'd you get that jacket?

    #70 5 years ago

    Here are a few of my cheap deals. A lot of these were pretty nice games. A few were real beaters.

    High Speed $50 (fair)
    Gottlieb Texan Sample $50 (rough)
    Williams Lucky Strike $50 (rough)
    Genco Mandalay $75 (fair)
    Segasa Monaco $75 (very nice)
    Williams Super Star $75 (rough)
    Gottlieb Pin-Up $125 (fair)
    Gottlieb Sinbad $125 (fair)
    Bally Dixieland $140 (fair)
    Gottleib Globetrotter $140 (cleaned up nice)
    Stern Stampede $150 (cleaned up nice)
    Gottlieb Lucky Hand $200 (very nice)
    Gottlieb Gold Strike $200 (fair)

    #71 5 years ago

    Alex - just curious how long have you been collecting? Were many of these word of mouth type gets? Great deals!

    #72 5 years ago

    About 11 years. Here's the breakdown of where they came from. A lot of great deals come down to being in the right place at the right time.

    High Speed $50 (fair) - word of mouth
    Gottlieb Texan Sample $50 (rough) - Pinside Market
    Williams Lucky Strike $50 (rough) - Pinside Market
    Genco Mandalay $75 (fair) - Ebay
    Segasa Monaco $75 (very nice) - Newspaper ad
    Williams Super Star $75 (rough) - Place a wanted ad on Craiglist
    Gottlieb Pin-Up $125 (fair) - Craigslist
    Gottlieb Sinbad $125 (fair) - Craigslist
    Bally Dixieland $140 (fair) - Flea Market
    Gottleib Globetrotter $140 (cleaned up nice) - Craigslist
    Stern Stampede $150 (cleaned up nice) - Ebay
    Gottlieb Lucky Hand $200 (very nice) - word of mouth
    Gottlieb Gold Strike $200 (fair) - word of mouth

    #73 5 years ago
    Quoted from thedefog:

    Was working when it went into storage.

    It's definitely going to need a bit of mechanical work, but the playfield, etc. are in good shape (see a few pics in my "Vulcan" thread in the EM section). With the help of pinsiders, I am confident I'll have the game up and running soon. The new parts he threw in to the deal (flipper rebuild kit, 5 new star rollovers and inserts, 9 new drop targets, new round inserts, new bumper caps, new rubbers) are worth almost the $150 I paid by themselves.

    #74 5 years ago

    My wife found this on CL for $200.00!
    What a great Fathers Day present.
    Definitely a contender for L.E.P. status.

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    #75 5 years ago

    Welcome, friend & LEP man.

    #76 5 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    "It's meant to be Played, not Laid"

    Quote of the day! I'm going to use this one.

    Best regards,

    Tom

    #77 5 years ago

    What's the cool looking motorcycle in the background?

    #78 5 years ago
    Quoted from AlexF:

    What's the cool looking motorcycle in the background?

    1934 HD vl
    There is a picture of it on the motorcycles thread here on Pinside!
    Thanx!
    E

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    #79 4 years ago

    Bumping this because I know there has to be some new LEP men out there.

    #80 4 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    Bumping this because I know there has to be some new LEP men out there.

    Nope.............just HEP men left..............................

    Ken

    #81 4 years ago

    I have seen this creed posted a few times and have tried to read it. I guess it doesn't describe me, because I never can get past the first few sentences before giving up and moving on. Shrug.

    #82 4 years ago

    Pinball is a really fun hobby. There are many aspects to this value in collecting. Luckily if you live in an area of the world were pinball is in locations, you don't need to actually own games to play them. With Edmonton group of Pinsiders it is possible to get to play many different games, that I know, I will never own. Appreciating all pins is great.

    Since my preference is the Electro-Mechanical and early Solid State. Lower cost pins are just fine by me. Now, go play some games!

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    #83 4 years ago

    About 10 years ago I walked out to my driveway in the morning and I found a Bally Zip-A-Doo sitting by the garage door. Found out a few days later a friend of a friend knew I collected pinball machines, so he just left this pin in my driveway. A non-working, complete EM pin dropped off at my house for free - Now that's what a Low End Pin Man likes...

    #84 4 years ago

    Well, I think I got the LEP in the bag. Nice thread by the way. Out of the 200 give or take pins I bought only 5 of them were actually working without needing repairs. The rest were projects, beaters or basket cases.
    Don't need no stinking LED's, light bulbs work just fine.
    Boards: It can be fixed, cleaned, and repaired. Unless it's broke in half. Have fixed a few of them too.
    Playfields are things the ball rolls on. Not works of art.
    Cabs: Who cares, you can't see the sides anyway in a tight lineup.
    Backglass: They are the true artwork of a pin. A few dabs of paint and some clear packing tape makes them look good as new when your standing across the room from them.

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    #85 4 years ago

    Low End For Life!!!

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    #86 2 years ago

    Over that last year I have picked up a couple more LEP's (& may get another tonight), so I thought it would be appropriate to trot this out again.... for all the newbie Low end pin men.

    #87 2 years ago

    There's nothing wrong with a little playfield wear and a little banged up cabinet. As long as the game is shopped properly and everything is properly adjusted, it will play well and be enjoyable. Bad backglasses do bother me a lot though. It's a good thing there are options, but it may not pay to get a new glass for an otherwise marginal machine.

    #88 2 years ago
    Quoted from jrpinball:

    it may not pay to get a new glass for an otherwise marginal machine.

    And if you do order a new glass, make sure it's a game you plan on keeping for a while.

    #89 2 years ago

    HOORAY!

    Low end pinball man is back!!!!!!!!

    #90 2 years ago
    Quoted from jrpinball:

    There's nothing wrong with a little playfield wear and a little banged up cabinet. As long as the game is shopped properly and everything is properly adjusted, it will play well and be enjoyable. Bad backglasses do bother me a lot though. It's a good thing there are options, but it may not pay to get a new glass for an otherwise marginal machine.

    This... I have a Sound Stage I rescued from certain doom in a dank concrete basement under a double wide overrun with the dogs this guy bred. Mold remediation, adjustments, and whatnot and it's cleaned up really nice - but the backglass is 35% missing and trashed. It's just not worth a new BG...

    I always thought of myself as a LEP man - but maybe I'm more of a MEP... nothing makes me happier than bringing them back from the dead and finding the bargains... but I'm just as happy about finding a working system 11 for $800 as I am for the $150 EMs. Bonus points if they aren't AAA games I can find on location; I'd rather get the weird titles.

    #91 2 years ago

    Glad this post brought back - while not in the class of the greats who get games for free to $75.00. Hope my $250 painted blue - non working Spot Bowler, $300 Fun Fest, $200 Triple Action, and $400 Time Zone at least get me in the LEP club. Don't have the skills or time to do full restorations, but enjoy getting a machine that isn't working well and is looking tired and worn into playable and reasonably good looking condition.

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    #92 2 years ago

    LEP... scratching that itch right now

    #93 2 years ago

    I always enjoy this thread.

    My $50 Criterium '75 is my LEP entry:

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    It's 90% working. I had grand ideas of a playfield touchup and of slide decals after the delaminated plastic and glue had been removed, but I'll probably just fix it, wax it, and enjoy it. The backglass is about perfect.

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    #94 2 years ago

    & here's the LEP that I picked up last night.... '74 Bally Amigo $150. NICE backglass, solid cabinet, typical playfield wear.
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    #95 2 years ago
    Quoted from electricsquirrel:

    HOORAY!
    Low end pinball man is back!!!!!!!!

    Damn straight

    #96 2 years ago

    Been in denial but would like to join the Club. I have replaced the back glass, cleared the play field and restored this Klondike a hundred times in my mind. But it plays perfect every time and just don't want to take it out of action.
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    BG Resto gave me a decent estimate on a replacement back glass, the original has a tight corner crack bottom right. I glued the crack in an experiment with Industrial super glue and sealed it with Krylon TP. The guy I purchased it from for 200 bucks said he no longer saw the crack unless he looked for it. I've reached that point. The flaking and further damage is at least stable( 3 years).
    It's just a great player. I keep it maintained and fast.
    Same with the Out of Sight I bought for 300 (yeah, a little high, but at the time I was desperate for a project and the backglass was great.
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    First play field restoration and I was happy the way it turned out. My primary goal was a fast player over cosmetics. Call it a Relic, good 2-pack Auto clear with leveling of inserts. Enough thickness to do the job but the surface still retaining some "Character" from planking ripples and graphics touched up.
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    Another great player. Despite an intensive re-furb she needs more work, but plays fast and correct everytime I hit the button( well, sometimes the score reels stick and there is that scoring anomaly).
    I like to spend money that enhances the performance of the machine. I like the way the restored machines look, and of course the OEM mint versions. A LEP must play right or it will be parted/discarded.
    The structural integrity of the cabinet is important, firm leg unions and a non-rattling back glass a must.Art on the side is cleaned and touched up, or stencils hand cut. I clean it back to original best I can.IMG_1252 (resized).JPG

    Unless you have a good parts stash it's still going to cost close to 200 bucks in parts/materials to get one right.
    Remember these sage words,and they are not mine, "It's hard to sell a EM"
    Fix machines you intend to keep and play.

    #97 2 years ago

    How I view playfield wear:
    Well that's the way they looked when I played them in arcades so why bother making it look like new.

    #98 2 years ago
    Quoted from arcademojo:

    How I view playfield wear:
    Well that's the way they looked when I played them in arcades so why bother making it look like new.

    Amen. They can't all be museum pieces.

    #99 2 years ago
    Quoted from phil-lee:

    Been in denial but would like to join the Club. I have replaced the back glass, cleared the play field and restored this Klondike a hundred times in my mind. But it plays perfect every time and just don't want to take it out of action.

    .

    Nice, true to the spirit of the LEP man.
    I have a soft spot for Klondike, it's the first pin that I remember playing as a kid & being able to win games on (Cherry city bowl, Salem, Oregon). Would love to have one if I could just find one local & cheap enough.

    & you are correct, A LEP must play well... condition is secondary.

    #100 2 years ago

    Itch scratched, 1955 Marathon, no working lights, shy a few parts, lots of potential and used the wife's KIA Soul as the pinhauler
    definitely LEP man

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