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Holt, MI
1947 Chi-Coin Playboy, overpriced on eBay:
ebay.com link: 1947 Chicago Coins Play Boy Flipperless 5 Cent Woodrail Pinball Works Great
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Quoted from way2wyrd:Heres a Worlds Series at a decent price. Couple of issues but a nice survivor
ebay.com link » 1934 Rockola Baseball World Series Pinball Game
Great find, Jeff. Thanks for posting!
Quoted from Tyamry:Here are two I picked up from a fellow pinsider and one at Chicagoland. All 3 are restored by Mike Hasnov. Now looking for Army Navy if anyone wants a nice payday!
Good mercy...that Sportsman is out of this world! I'm still trying to put my eyeballs back in there sockets after pouring over those pictures. *gasp* Just...gorgeous. Thanks for posting those shots.
Glad to see this thread coming back to life. 
Someone save this Knockout:
ebay.com link: Vintage Superior Amusment Portland OR Knockout pinball game Antique woodrail
Quoted from DennisDodel:This has been up on e-bay a few times. For some reason he will not allow Jay to post photos of the game on the IPDB.
Probably because he can't be bothered to take his microwave off the glass.
Quoted from jmsvero:I would but in Oregon with no shipping. I am in florida.
In that case:
ebay.com link: Vintage Marble Parade pinball machine wood rail antique
A Marble Parade in your neck of the woods.
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Interesting asymmetrical ball arch and some sort of central mechanic between the title text on this one.
Happy Saturday.
A neat old Seeburg table for your weekend:
ebay.com link: PINBALL MACHINE Seeburg antique pin table vintage mechanical wood rail marble
A 1949 Bally "Citation" one ball horse race game:
ebay.com link: Bally wood rail horse race pinball one ball game from 1949 ready to play
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What a gorgeous game.
...and check out that cabinet stencil! What is that...four...five... six...8 different colors??? 
A 1932 Mills "Official pin table"
ebay.com link: VINTAGE ANTIQUE MILLS OFFICIAL PIN TABLE EARLY PINBALL MACHINE NO COIN MECHA
Here's a...well, I think it might be a...I DON'T KNOW WHAT this is:
ebay.com link: ANTIQUE PIN BALL MACHINE DESIGN RESTORATION PARTS STATEMENT PEICE MILLS
A 1936 Bally "Bumper"
southjersey.craigslist.org link
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Here's another item of note, a 1947 Gottlieb "Flying Trapeze".
cookeville.craigslist.org link
You may recognize the year as a significant one, same year as the invention of the flipper. In fact, this was Gottlieb's final flipperless game, released directly prior to Humpty Dumpty.
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A little rough, but I'll bet she'd shine up nicely in the right hands. Also, that backglass looks like it has some incredible backlit elements (this next image is from IPDB, not the seller:
Also, the lowest priced ad I've posted yet.
Get it!!!
A 1940's(?) Bally "Play Feature"
ebay.com link: Very Rare 1940s Bally Play Feature Horse Racing Pinball Arcade Game
The ad heading says "Very Rare" and I'm actually inclined to believe them for once...as I couldn't even find a listing for it on IPDB:
Quoted from way2wyrd:$1200 and its 3 times lower than the value and its missing the ball lift lololololo
1930's parts...those should be easy to come by. 
Okay, here's another from the 30's, TRIGGIE(?):
So here's another item of interest, a 1940 Bally "Vacation"
There are no images or price on the c-list ad, but I contacted the seller, James, since he's sort of in my neck of the woods, and got some pictures and a price from him.
$500 firm.
It's not working, but a pretty cool lookin' game. I tried my diplomatic best to let him know that non-working flipperless games are a tough sell and that he's not likely to get his asking price. However, I also told him I'd try to help him by spreading the word. Here's hoping someone proves me wrong and saves this machine with an asking price. ...or does a better job of diplomatic haggling than I did. Here it is:
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Quoted from way2wyrd:I like that home run
Still available...albeit several states away. 
The playfield says the name of this game is "Big Shot," but I couldn't find it on IPDB. Looks purely mechanical so I'm guessing it is from the 30's.
Any info on this one?
Ad says 1931 but IPDB says 1936. Regardless, it's a Rockola "Big Bank Nite"
...and it has no photographs on IPDB! (I messaged the seller to ask if he would great permission to post these photos on IPDB.)
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Quoted from RyanClaytor:...and it has no photographs on IPDB! (I messaged the seller to ask if he would great permission to post these photos on IPDB.)
Great news! I heard back from the seller...
...and have uploaded his 8 images to IPDB.
1932 Pierce "Hoop-er-doo"
ebay.com link: 1942 Antique Nickel Coin Op Pinball Machine
I mean, you kinda have to get this one for the name alone, right?
Quoted from way2wyrd:I've seen like 6 variations on this game. Never seen this one. It's probably 32 or 33 not 42
Ha-ha! Right. IPDB said '32, I corrected the listing here. Looks like a copy of Ballyhoo. I'm guessing that's why you've seen so many like it. But, hey, that listing is in your backyard, Jeff! Fort Worth!
Quoted from northvibe:I didn’t see flippers or flipper buttons!
1960's Pinball Machine
The scoring counter does not work and it does not have flippers.
It has a 10 cent vend.
$350 OBO
northernwi.craigslist.org link
Thanks for the help on here, northvibe! 
Quoted from Pecos:I sure would like to know how that 'Banknite Bank' meter works.
Amen, brother! Maybe I'll shoot that seller another message. I was awfully curious, too.
Here's a 1941 Genco "Victory"
ebay.com link: Genco mfg co Not inc 1941 victory usa antique pinball machine arcade military
Pretty beat, but...maybe in the right loving hands? *hopeful*
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Quoted from setzkor:Here's another in the Wisconsin area...ESCO Crossfire
racine.craigslist.org link
Thanks for the post, Setzkor!!! I would not have found that one. Nice work!
Looks like it's a 1947 Exhibit "Cross Fire"
Man, were those flipperless Exhibit backglasses ever gorgeous. Seems like they were mandated to use every color of the rainbow. Haha! Love it.
Odd thing about that ad, tho, is they've posted screen shots of the pictures (!??!) instead of the actual pictures themselves.
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So weird. As my homie Pecos would say, "Proceed with caution."
Quoted from setzkor:That would be an awesome scam, talk about being after a very specific mark.
I thought about that, too. In all likelihood, its an older seller who couldn't find the folder for his photos. *shrugs*
Anyhow, here's a REALLY NICE Gottlieb "Lucky Star":
philadelphia.craigslist.org link
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Quoted from RyanClaytor:Rockola "Big Bank Nite"
Quoted from Pecos:I sure would like to know how that 'Banknite Bank' meter works.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Maybe I'll shoot that seller another message.
So I did message the seller and here's what I got back:
"Hi ryan, I am just running the Estate sale at this location. Not really a pinball person. Just selling it. I will ask the son. The mom passed away and had the machine in her game room."
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In other news, a 1946 Genco "Spellbound"
kansascity.craigslist.org link
No images in the ad, but I'll spare you the trip to IPDB:
At first I thought this 1932 Seeburg "Gold Coast":
spacecoast.craigslist.org link
...might be a repeat listing of this ebay ad I previously posted...
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Happy Saturday.
A neat old Seeburg table for your weekend:
ebay.com link » Pinball Machine Seeburg Antique Pin Table Vintage Mechanical Wood Rail Marble
...however, since they are at opposite ends of the East Coast (the former in Maine, the latter in Florida) I'll assume they are not duplicates.
Also, while that ebay listing I posted a while back has ended, it has been relisted here:
ebay.com link: PINBALL MACHINE Seeburg antique pin table vintage mechanical wood rail marble
...and currently sits at a 99cent bid.
Good luck meeting the reserve!
I'm guessing this ad:
Quoted from RyanClaytor:A 1939 Exhibit "Flash" is buried in this ad:
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...got relisted as this ad:
...with a different picture?
Expired pic:
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Current pic:
And just in case you haven't had enough harkening back to previous ads, I believe the seller of this...
...is also selling the machines on either side of it, both in pretty amazing original condition. First...
1939 Chicago Coin "O' Boy":
philadelphia.craigslist.org link
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Then a 1939 Chicago Coin "Majors":
philadelphia.craigslist.org link
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Man, these games...
1937 Chicago Coin "Dux":
winstonsalem.craigslist.org link
Wows, a couple things...
1) I think these photos are better than those on IPDB (to that end, I attempted to contact the seller...let's hope they take the same stance as the "Big Bank Nite" seller)
2) This looks like it has a similar mechanic as that Chicago Coin "Mars" listed on eBay a little while back that had us all salivating. In the backglass there's a pair of ducks (dux...ha!) that rotate into view. Bumpers score when birds are in view and turn off when not visible. So cool and theme appropriate. Additionally, from this picture of the backglass it appears to also (like "Mars") have a multi-tiered backglass(!!!)
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Unfortunately, it looks like the background artwork in the backbox is gone, though. 
Regardless, wows again.
Quoted from way2wyrd:who do i know in the Carolinas hmmmm--
GET IT!!!
Okay, I'm about to leave on a 4-day trip to go pick up a flipperless gem of my own. I'll report once I'm back, but all that to say...you might need to take care of this place in my absence.
In the meantime, here's another beauty and my farewell (until next week) ad...
1940 Genco "Blondie":
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Okay, I lied...and I'm addicted. One more before bed.
1937 Bally "Skipper":
This one looks VERY very clean, plug-and-play, and sports dual projection units(!!!). *drools* Looks like it's had an alternate color scheme painted on it's cab at some point, which I actually quite like.
It's true. The light/blue/grey goes with the backglass and playfield a lot more harmoniously than the original brick red. But peep those individually hand painted dots on the cab. Ha-ha! Those...I could do without. Nit-pick, nit-pick...here it be:
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HI AGAIN!
Quoted from Pecos:The Big Parade, 1941. $350 Exhibit Supply Company
sfbay.craigslist.org link
Quoted from Tyamry:Not mine but here is one on Seattle's Craigslist.
seattle.craigslist.org link
Pecos & Tyamry, thanks for posting here in my absence. Keep 'em comin'!
Also...
1936 Jennings "Daily Limit"
ebay.com link: 1936 Jennings Daily Limit Payout Pinball Machine
...coincidentally, another machine with VERY few pictures (1) on IPDB.
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Love that metallic-gold playfield!
1935 Automatic Industries "Dealer"
Jimeney...I'm starting to think we might need to make form an UnscrupulousIPDB.org to house all these found images, cause it sure would take a lot of time to ask each of these sellers for permission to post. Maybe that's what this thread is becoming. Ha-ha! Just for instance, here's another game with only a single black and white ad image for the game:
...when there are a couple handfuls of reasonable-quality, full-color images just waiting to be preserved:
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Sooooo...who wants to contact this seller for permission and upload 'em to IPDB.
1935 Mills "Ten Grand"
What an odd machine with that giant coin-holder (payout unit?) right in front of the player. In a change of pace, the pictures in this ad are the exact images listed on IPDB. o_O
Quoted from bingopodcast:The header is a slug viewer.
I mean, I believe you, but that is a BIG slug viewer! Ha-ha!
Quoted from Stoomer:Ryan Claytor Well you've done it...gone and driven me out of my lurker's cave and made me make a post on Spinside.
I just had to commend you publicly on your love of, and dedication to the flipperless pin world. These beauties are underappreciated and run the risk of being forgotten if it wasn't for the work of you and a handful of others.
Keep the faith Brothers!!
OH!! And go buy that Midget Racer!! Cool game...but aren't they all...
Sean Kavanagh
Ha-ha! I consider the fact that you posted anything here a personal victory. The fact your post contained some awfully nice words is icing on the cake. Thanks for post, Sean!
...you can even come back, you know.
Quoted from Matesamo:I would 100% buy that Midget Racer if it wasn't half way across the country! Love everything about it!
That price isn't bad. Cool lookin' game, for sure! Looks like it might be missing a lockdown bar, part of the backbox frame, and the glass has some pretty sizable scrapes.
...but, you know, motivation and some elbow grease can fix all that. COME VISIT MICHIGAN! It's...lovely(?)...this time of year. Regardless, thanks for posting in the flipperless thread, Matesamo. Good seein' you around these parts.
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Speaking of posting in the flipperless thread...MY TURN!
1934 Genco "Criss-Cross"
Supposedly this works(!??!) for $350!
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Quoted from bingopodcast:Now you're speaking my language. Nice looking Criss-Cross for a nice price.
Head trim on midget racer is sitting on top of the backbox and lockbar is underneath the game. Go grab it, Michigander!
Then I'll have two project pins stored in my workplace office.
Happy Thursday.
1940 Genco "Powerhosue"
Despite the ad stating:
"Hi i have a 1933 pinball machine in great condition. Let me know wha you have I'm open to trades"
IPDB lists it as a 1940 production machine and it's hard to tell from the worst pictures ever, but it might actually be in decent shape(?). That blurry picture of a picture on a cell phone showing some of the backglass doesn't look half bad! In fact, the glass looks like it has retained more color than the photos on IPDB, which show a lot of white.
IPDB:
The best product photographer of our (or any?) generation:
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Someone in Jersey go offer this guy a "trade" in photography lessons and windex.
Quoted from bingopodcast:...and I thought my photos were bad.
They are. 
A two-fer today, since it was a zero-fer yesterday:
1. 1932 Atlas Indicator Works Incorporated "Home Tango"
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2. 1932 Pace Manufacturing Incorporated "King Pin"
ebay.com link: ALL ORIGINAL KING PIN 1932 PINBALL MACHINE COIN OP ART DECO
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1947 Gottlieb "Marjorie"
Lockdown bar actually missing on this one (ad confirmed). 
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Quoted from Pecos:1940 Bally Triumph Pinball Machine - RARE - $350
Quoted from Pecos:1938 Swing Pinball Machine by Chicago Coin Machine Co. - RARE - $400
Oh.
Em.
Goodness.
*dies*
These are INCREDIBLE finds, Pecos!!!
*Ryan retires*
Quoted from RyanClaytor:*Ryan retires*
Quoted from Pecos:Ha ha! You can't do that. You're just getting started!
*LOL* Seriously, I don't know how you keep it up. Everyday I think to myself,
"Well, maybe I just won't be able to find anything today."
Hasn't happened yet, but I am starting to see a fair number of repeat listings. ...but I certainly didn't find those couple listed above. So thank you for listing those really beautiful examples that are reasonably priced to boot. WHERE'S Colsond3 WHEN I NEED HIS MANTRA!??!
Here's a squeaky clean 1947 Genco "Broncho"
ebay.com link: RARE 1947 Broncho 1 player pinball game By Genco
...and the glamour shots. *wipes the drool from my lip*
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I was wondering how you are supposed to achieve the final "H" and "O" at the bottom of the playfield, but then noticed the two kick-out holes near the cowboy hat...which I THINK(?) kick the ball into those bottom two bumpers? If so, looks like a cool and challenging mechanic.
Bonus post:
ebay.com link: 1941 Genco Victory PINBALL MACHINE in Post Exchange postcard TOPEKA Kansas
My impulse buy of the day, I just nabbed this postcard. *LOL*
The colorist actually got the Genco "Victory" colors PRETTY accurate, too! 
10,000 bonus points if you can identify the sliver of a pinball machine flanking "Victory". While you're squinting, here's the back.
Hi MichiganPinball,
Thanks for posting your...
Quoted from michiganpinball:...1943 Paratroops...
...to the thread here. Funny you should mention a conversion of a...
Quoted from RyanClaytor:...1940 Genco "Powerhosue"...
...as I just posted an ad for one 5 days ago. Anyhow, regarding...
Quoted from michiganpinball:...Any interest...
...in your Paratroops, please post some pictures and information on this thread.
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In other news, happy (almost) Wednesday. This next one...KINDA has a flipper. However, it doesn't do much AND THIS MACHINE IS JUST SO DARN COOL!!! Here we go:
1952 Genco "Jumpin' Jacks"
ebay.com link: 1952 Genco Jumpin Jack Pinball Machine Clown Theme Retro Arcade Game
Here's a nice video of one in action (I don't believe it's the one in the ad):
...and the pictures from the ad:
Alright, who in this thread is in Seattle? Here's a nice condition, fully functional, very reasonably priced, flipperless pin:
1947 United "Mexico" for $300
There's even a link to a video of it being played:
https://carr-family.smugmug.com/Pinball-machine/i-7x4r4nv
...and here's the pics:
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Quoted from yancy:What an amazing piece of art for three hundred bucks. And you get to play it!
Amen! It really looks to be in amazing condition, too. I think this might be the "steal" of this thread so far.
Quoted from way2wyrd:No creepy clowns!
Send all your multi-tiered backglass creepy clowns my way. Those guys are SWEET!
Quoted from AlexF:Here's a "400".
NEAT!!! Thanks for the post here, Alex.
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Speaking of posts...
1941 Gottlieb "Spot-A-Card":
FYI: I couldn't locate the 3 or the 11 cap...and it sorta looks like the 11 cap might have been shattered. 
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And like an enigma, Sean "Finger Model" K reappears. Thanks for mentioning these points of interest, Sean! Very interesting about the compression bumper and spinning disk(?)...triangle(?).
Quick question on the compression bumper; is there a solenoid that draws it downward to sort of push out the springs...akin to a pop bumper? Or does it stay at rest and the ball just sort of careens off of its at-rest springiness?
Quoted from Tyamry:I posted the link to the "Mexico" that was on Craigslist in Seattle. Post # 246.
I knew that sounded familiar. *LOL* Thanks for keeping us honest around here, Tyamry. Honestly, I'm just starting to lose track, and getting occasionally lazy about double-checking.
Quoted from michiganpinball:Here is the BG and head art. Will put up the rest after I unload the body from the trailer.
Neat. Not a bad lookin' glass, especially for a conversion game. Usually I feel like those art packages are pretty sub par. Looking forward to seeing the playfield (and price ).
Quoted from Pecos:So, you ask, how do I find these pins?
From the Project Pin thread.
Currently, I just highlight the first part of the Craigslist URL and type in another city to jump around to different parts of the country.
If this URL is in the URL box: "h-ttps://dallas.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=pinball"
I highlight "h-ttps://dallas" with the mouse.
Then I type in a new city, like "Tucson" and press the enter button.
Tucson.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=pinball
I have been searching the Internet since 1995 so I have a bit of experience. I don't use search engines to find the pins I post here but if you are, here is an article that might help you weed out some of the noise:
https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-tips-for-smarter-more-efficient-internet-searching/
Nice! Thanks for droppin' the knowledge, Pecos! I'll have to try some of that on tomorrow's search because today's search did not come from ANY interweb listing!
*suspense!!!*
So I was having a conversation with the guy who keeps your games and mine playing like a bunch of champs, Steve Young of Pinball Resource fame. We got on the topic of flipperless games and he told me about a BEAUTIFUL game he has. I asked him if I could post it here and he obliged. Here we go:
1940 Gottlieb "Summer Time"
You know as well as I do where and how to contact Steve (and for those new to the scene, his contact info is at the bottom of this page: http://pbresource.com/ ). He's willing to part with this gem for $650, no shipping, gotta pick it up. He also mentioned that it looks even better in personWHICH HOW CAN IT LOOK AT ALL THAT GORGEOUS IN TACT MIRRORING!!! *dies!!!*
P.S. Steve wasn't shy with the resolution, so give these pics a good click if you want to inspect.
Sooo...I'm guessing this is a 1935 Bally "Majestic"
...because it's certainly not from the 40's or 50's (as the ad suggests) and there's no pictures on IPDB:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4150
Gameplay looks crazy-difficult! ...like every scoring pocket is only accessible from the side, except for that 5000pt jampot that requires you to skate between those upper two holes. That's straight cray!
BTW, I just realized after staring at this thing for about 10 minutes straight that it is a nautical theme; playfield graphics show a big overhead shot of a ship, flanked by little metal ships for those 200 and 300 scoring pockets (perhaps life boats?). Also, does it really say S.O.L. near the drain (Sh!t Out of Luck!??! *LOL*), or is that a nautical term I'm not familiar with?
Regardless, enjoy your gander of another title not on the database:
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Quoted from astyy:Not sure what this is https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Early-Pinball-Machine/232626140587
Thanks for contributing here, Astyy!
Quoted from DennisDodel:Here's a little history of Hooper Automatics. Scroll down to see a nice photo of this particular machine.
https://pennymachines.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4312&hilit=hoopers
Dang, Dennis to the rescue (AGAIN)! Thanks a bunch for hangin' around here, Dennis.
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In similarly poor condition, we have a 1934 Genco "Criss Cross"
ebay.com link: Early Genco Criss Cross Pinball
Not for the faint of heart...especially at this price 
Quoted from setzkor:1946 Chicago Coin Super Score
duluth.craigslist.org link
Price dropped to 180, and pics added. Backglass is rough
Nice find, setzkor! Thanks for posting.
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Here's another. Looks like a pinball hoarder may have made his way up to the big silver ball in the sky, because there's a heap of stuff for sale here...including 2 flipperless games:
1934 Stoner "Super 8", 1935 Chicago Coin "Wing Lite"
philadelphia.craigslist.org link
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Quoted from astyy:Another Brit machine for sale on Ebay UK - Ewan White & Co Ltd. Zunt Table. I'm not sure what a Zunt is
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202196191429
Astyy! Givin' me a run for my money! Lemme try to keep up with some nice images from a...
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1932 Gottlieb "Baffle Ball Sr."
ebay.com link: GOTTLIEB Baffle Ball Sr Antique 1931 Baguette Pinball Machine 1st Pinball Made
...that doesn't appear to have non-advertisement images on IPDB:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=131
...but my favorite part of the ad is that the title purports this to be a "Baguette Pinball Machine." I think you'll agree that this breaded piece of history has held up quite well over the course of it's eighty-six year leavened life:
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Quoted from DennisDodel:Nice find Ryan. If you haven't already, please send the link to the ad to Jay.
Thanks, Dennis. I've not had much luck with my IPDB uploads and communication with Jay. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or not clicking hard enough or something. Regardless, I'll send you a PM to see if perhaps you can open the lines of communication for me, because I'd love to contribute to the database.
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For today, here's an oldie but goodie. Buried in this ad you'll find a:
1932 Bally "Ballyhoo" with the stand included ($2000):
No pictures were uploaded, but we all know what this one looks like, right?
Quoted from way2wyrd:Check out the amazing Rockola Army Navy for sale
https://www.facebook.com/prewarpinball/--Jeff
So, Jeff posted about this pristine (understatement) 1935 Rockola "Army/Navy" a while back. Looks like it's still for sale for a mere $21k:
ebay.com link: Rockola Army navy pinball 1935
...so let's post the pictures here this time, for posterity and envy:
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And because that one was kind of already mentioned, here's another Rockola classic:
1934 Rockola "World Series" (with a "Final Reduction" to $2100)
ebay.com link: Final Reduction Vintage Rockola World Series 1934 Classic Pinball Game
Looks like the same seller who listed that...
Quoted from RyanClaytor:1934 Rockola "World Series"
...I posted here yesterday is also selling a:
1933 Rockola "Jigsaw"
...for $2900 (knocked down from $3300 just a couple/few days ago):
ebay.com link: Final Reduction Vintage Rockola Jigsaw Pinball 1933 Chicago World s Fair
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Here's another item of interest and only $75. Seller lists it as a:
"VINTAGE 1933 STEEPLE CHASE & BAGATELLE GAME ( LINDSTROM TOOL & TOY)"
...which looks similar to the 1933 Lindstrom "Steeple Chase" on IPDB:
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...and the 1934 (non-chrome) Lindstrom "Steeple Chase" on IPDB:
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...but with some changes in surround (wooden) and graphics (title is gone). 
Here's the item in the ad:
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Just emailed Jay at IPDB about this.
Quoted from way2wyrd:doesnt count. not coin op.
Quoted from jmsvero:Yeah, I agree with Jeff.
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A couple of updates from over a month ago. This one...
Quoted from RyanClaytor:1947 Gottlieb "Flying Trapeze"
...has been relisted:
cookeville.craigslist.org link
...and so has this one:
Quoted from RyanClaytor:1947 Exhibit "Ranger"
minneapolis.craigslist.org link
...still precariously perched on a (not so) gently used futon:
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...best of luck to the buyer as you disinfect this find.
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...and finally, here's something previously unlisted here:
1940 Gottlieb "Score-A-Line":
kansascity.craigslist.org link
IPDB has a couple of nice Raphael Lankar photos, but not many (2). So...Jay has been contacted, as some of these photos show a slightly different use of bumpers at the bottom of the game (posts, instead of flipper-esque posts):
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Quoted from AlexF:Here's a pretty nice looking 1936 Bally Bumper.
Quoted from way2wyrd:NIce machine tho i think the colors are wrong.
Quoted from AlexF:Did I post this one before?
Actually, I did, about 22 days ago. ...and not to split hairs, but it's a Skipper.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:1937 Bally "Skipper":
madison.craigslist.org link
This one looks VERY very clean, plug-and-play, and sports dual projection units(!!!). *drools* Looks like it's had an alternate color scheme painted on it's cab at some point, which I actually quite like.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's losing track around here!
Quoted from Tyamry:I posted the link to the "Mexico" that was on Craigslist in Seattle. Post # 246.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:I knew that sounded familiar. *LOL* Thanks for keeping us honest around here, Tyamry. Honestly, I'm just starting to lose track, and getting occasionally lazy about double-checking.
I certainly don't mind some repeats. Keep 'em comin', Alex!
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Quoted from way2wyrd:I like the LE shit smeared cabinet look.
My guess would be it was repainted brown (why always brown???) and then someone tried to strip it back to original?
Quoted from Pecos:1930's Jimmy Valentine
By Scientific $300, Half Moon Bay, CA
Wow wow wow!!! This is killer! Another fabulous find, Pecos!
Quoted from manitouguy:- no pics on ipdb so I copied them from the ad
Good find, Ron! Be sure to send that ad to Jay at IPDB!
Quoted from I_P_D_B:BTW, this is a good time to let everyone reading this know that, if you ever see games on ebay or leboncoin or Craigslist or any other site that has a timed deadline, and you think the IPDB could benefit from having those pictures, please consider emailing us direct about it. In the body of the email, show the URL of where the pictures appear. Do NOT email us their pictures or submit their pictures via our interface. The URL will be enough. We also ask that you put the name of the game in the email Subject line along with the name of the hosting website, (ebay, Craigslist, etc.). We do not open every email the instant it comes in so if I see in the Subject line the word ebay or Craigslist, I will know there is a timed deadline and I will jump on that email right away.
I look forward to hearing from you, Ryan.
Happy New Year, folks!
1931 Automatic Industries "Whiffle"
ebay.com link: Automatic Industries WHIFFLE Antique Collector Arcade Pinball Machine
193-something National Specialty Company "Zingo"
ebay.com link: National Specialty Co ZINGO Antique Collector Arcade Pinball Machine w Stand
Listed with images from IPDB:
We've seen...
Quoted from RyanClaytor:A 1932 Mills "Official pin table"
...a little over a month ago:
ebay.com link: VINTAGE ANTIQUE MILLS OFFICIAL PIN TABLE EARLY PINBALL MACHINE NO COIN MECHA
...but this time it's blue (!??!) and from the same exact seller (!??!!??!):
ebay.com link: VINTAGE ANTIQUE MILLS OFFICIAL PIN TABLE BLUE EARLY PINBALL MACHINE KEY
Here's hoping he has a stash of Mills Officials and isn't simply painting the first one to "pretty-it-up".
1932 Mason and Company "ROLL-ITT"
ebay.com link: Antique Mason and Company 034 ROLL ITT A game of chance 034 Pinball Machine 1932 RARE
Wow...I've never heard of this one before. I spotted the ad earlier in the day, but wasn't able to post until now. Looks like it has since expired, but the eye-candy remains:
P.S. This same old beat-up...
Quoted from RyanClaytor:1941 Genco "Victory"
...has been relisted:
ebay.com link: Genco mfg co Not inc 1941 victory usa antique pinball machine arcade military
Quoted from Pecos:1930's Jimmy Valentine
By Scientific $300, Half Moon Bay, CA
Confession time: Despite being located on an opposite coast, this one's sort of been eating at me. I sent the seller a message yesterday and was told that this beauty is now sold. Did anyone from here manage to nab it? Please post jealous-making pix and description if so. Would LOOOVE-love-love to hear more about it.
Sincerely,
Ryan
Postcard of a 1934 Total Recall prototype
Anyone know what this thing actually is? Earliest simultaneous player I've ever seen.
Quoted from way2wyrd:There was one for sale at a dallas auction but it got away before I could buy it
-Jeff
Wow! ...do you know what it is? (Year, manufacturer, title?)
Quoted from astyy:Are you guys interested in this type of thing
I know this is a collective group and I won't pretend to speak for the whole, but in my feelings "Flipperless" pinball games do not include pitch 'n' bats. I enjoy the pitch 'n' bats (and perhaps they deserve their own for sale thread?), but in my opinion they probably don't quite fit into the focus of this thread. But thanks for thinking of us, Astyy!
Quoted from jmsvero:Also this is a "Prewar" forum as well.
I haven't adhered to this when looking for games for sale, as there are PLENTY of flipperless games created after 1945, in fact a number of flipperless games have even been created after the (conventionally accepted) invention of flippers on "Humpty Dumpty" in late '47. Surprising to some, there are production, coin-op, flipperless games made in the 50's, 60's, 70's and beyond. ...and if I found any of those for sale, I'd certainly post them here. Ha-ha!
...and more:
http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?specialty=15&sortby=name&searchtype=advanced
I guess *PERSONALLY* I'm more focused on non-bingo flipperless games here (only because bingos have their own thread...and feel like a completely unique offering, TO ME). So I'm not sure about the rest of the two people who check this thread, but I know that I'm not wed to the "Pre-WWII" portion of the "EM AND pre-wwii" subforum title.
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Did I fly that flag high enough in this post?
Quoted from AlexF:We need to ask Pin-it what's acceptable? Where is that guy anyway?
While we wait for him, here's another...
1932 Gottlieb Whizz Bang (Model A):
ebay.com link: Antique Pinball Gottlieb Whizz Bang A
Better pix than IPDB. Contacted Jay.
Quoted from Pecos:BOCSO PINBALL MACHINE - $300 (BRADENTON) [FL]
sarasota.craigslist.org link
Thanks for stoppin' in for a visit, Pecos!
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1947 Keeny "Click"
ebay.com link: VINTAGE KEENEY CLICK PINBALL MACHINE COIN OPERATED WOOD RAIL RARE BEACH THEME
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1947 United "Hawaii"
ebay.com link: RARE VINTAGE 1947 UNITEDS HAWAII FLIPPERLESS PINBALL MACHINE
1940 Stoner "Double Feature"
ebay.com link: 1940 DOUBLE FEATURE BY STONER PINBALL MACHINE
193? H. W. Goewey "Triggie":
ebay.com link: Triggie 1930 s Antique Pinball Visible Accumulator
Looks like there's some better pix here than on IPDB. Contacted Jay (who, BTW, has been incredibly responsive).
A couple/few days ago, there were a whole SLEW of flipperless games that were listed on ebay from a seller named indianapickers1958. (Probably close to a dozen.) I thought to myself, "Great! Now I can populate the flipperless thread for another couple weeks," as I've found it challenging to uncover NEW posts recently. Then, just as quickly as they all appeared, they were all pulled. I'm not sure if someone purchased the entire lot or what happen. I didn't attempt to contact the seller.
Anyhow, most of the listings I find these days I've posted here previously, or I'd be chastised for listing them. (Frankly, I'd agree, the non-coin-op toy versions aren't as exciting. But as I've mentioned, I've been struggling to find newly listed bona fide flipperless coin-op items.)
With all that said, I still have those pulled ads up in tabs on my browser. Due to the difficulty of finding new ads, the next several I post will be de-listed ads from the seller mentioned above. Still some eye-candy for those among us who appreciate this fine hobby's history, but unfortunately probably not available for purchase. ...but you're welcome to contact the seller (and perhaps report back to us here). 
I'll start with the oldest of the bunch:
1931 Gottlieb "Bingo"
ebay.com link: 711 53200 19255 0
No pictures listed on IPDB. Contacted Jay.
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A buddy of mine, John Dayhuff , is selling a nice lookin':
1941 Genco "Gun Club" and he's askin' $500 for it.
He can be contacted via the pinsider listing above. He's located in Battle Creek, MI, he's a good no-nonsense dude, and you should deal with him with confidence. Here are a poop-ton of pictures John forwarded to me personally, knowing I'd be interested. Honestly, I'm real tempted but just don't have the room. That backglass with the backlit shooting gallery ducks looks amazing (aside from the minor flake John points out), as does the gorgeous playfield (obviously the bumpers could use some work). Please save me from myself:
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Quoted from Stoomer:Uh-oh ryanclaytor...there's the PF and caps we need for OUR Metro...lol. 400 is very steep for what appears to be a PF with a de-populated underside. I've emailed the seller...we'll see what happens...
Sean
I was trying to talk myself out of getting excited about this. *LOL* Thanks for your proactive enabling.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:A couple/few days ago, there were a whole SLEW of flipperless games that were listed on ebay from a seller named indianapickers1958. ... Then, just as quickly as they all appeared, they were all pulled. ... With all that said, I still have those pulled ads up in tabs on my browser. Due to the difficulty of finding new ads, the next several I post will be de-listed ads from the seller mentioned above.
A cool tandem roll-down game from that lot...
1958 Irving Kaye Co. Inc. "Deuces Wild":
ebay.com link: VINTAGE DEUCES WILD POKER PINBALL MACHINE COIN OPERATED WOOD RAIL MACHINE
Quoted from jmsvero:That game used to be mine. I sold it to Ross (indianapickers) 6 months ago. I picked it up at an auction but never got to it.
Interesting. Looks like he's still using the same pix that were uploaded to IPDB about a year ago.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:A couple/few days ago, there were a whole SLEW of flipperless games that were listed on ebay from a seller named indianapickers1958. ... Then, just as quickly as they all appeared, they were all pulled. ... With all that said, I still have those pulled ads up in tabs on my browser. Due to the difficulty of finding new ads, the next several I post will be de-listed ads from the seller mentioned above.
1947 Bally "Rocket"
ebay.com link: VINTAGE BALLY ROCKET PINBALL MACHINE COIN OPERATED WOOD RAIL MAKE AN OFFER
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Okay, so here's an unexpected find. There's not a coin-chute on this thing BUTIDON'TCARE. Check out this amazing piece of pinball history!!!
jerseyshore.craigslist.org link
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Quoted from DennisDodel:I have one of these.
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6104
Wow, yours looks to be an identical layout, but in much better condition. What a cool find. Wish I could play one of these...I've never even seen one (outside of the hobby history books).
Quoted from DennisDodel:Tough game to beat. Very heavy slate.
Both those statements look to be true! Ha-ha!
Also...
I sincerely dig that red carpet in your gameroom. Nice touch.
Quoted from DennisDodel:I have one of these.
Hey Dennis,
Just a quick follow-up question:
What in the world are these? I was looking at them from every angle in an attempt to better understand them. Are they, like, a little ramp of raised wood? What's their purpose? They're positioned directly behind one of those pigeon hole columns, so it's not as if you could launch a ball off them like a ramp. Are they just glorified diverters? They seem a bit short for that.
Looking forward to your thoughts on these and how they influence gameplay.
Best,
Ryan
Quoted from DennisDodel:Unfortunately, my carpet had to be pulled up a few years ago after the basement sewer backed up. Just bare concrete now.
OHmygodthatsux!!! I'm so sorry to hear about that. We have a basement remodel in our future and after seeing that red carpet, I'm seriously contemplating a Dodel homage. If it comes to fruition, I'll send you some pix.
Quoted from DennisDodel:The two "ramps" appear to be aftermarket pieces. Either added by an operator or a later owner. The guy I bought it from said that he did not add them. They are crudely cut and of a different type of wood than the rest of the game.
Being rounded at the ends, they very slightly divert a ball running next to them off to the left or right making it just a little easier to direct the ball into one of the bell scoring areas. Probably not an operator add on for that reason!
Quoted from RyanClaytor:A couple/few days ago, there were a whole SLEW of flipperless games that were listed on ebay from a seller named indianapickers1958. ... Then, just as quickly as they all appeared, they were all pulled. ... With all that said, I still have those pulled ads up in tabs on my browser. Due to the difficulty of finding new ads, the next several I post will be de-listed ads from the seller mentioned above.
1935 Genco "Criss Cross A Lite"
ebay.com link: VINTAGE 1934 GENCO CRISS CROSS A LITE PINBALL MACHINE WOOD RAIL COIN OPERATED
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Quoted from RyanClaytor:A couple/few days ago, there were a whole SLEW of flipperless games that were listed on ebay from a seller named indianapickers1958. ... Then, just as quickly as they all appeared, they were all pulled. ... With all that said, I still have those pulled ads up in tabs on my browser. Due to the difficulty of finding new ads, the next several I post will be de-listed ads from the seller mentioned above.
1947 Genco "Broncho"
ebay.com link: VINTAGE GENCO BRONCHO PINBALL MACHINE COIN OPERATED WOOD RAIL RARE COWGIRL
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Quoted from RyanClaytor:A couple/few days ago, there were a whole SLEW of flipperless games that were listed on ebay from a seller named indianapickers1958. ... Then, just as quickly as they all appeared, they were all pulled. ... With all that said, I still have those pulled ads up in tabs on my browser. Due to the difficulty of finding new ads, the next several I post will be de-listed ads from the seller mentioned above.
1947 Gottlieb "Lucky Star"
ebay.com link: VINTAGE GOTTLIEB LUCKY STAR PINBALL MACHINE COIN OPERATED WOOD RAIL MACHINE
Quoted from Pecos:1940 Yacht-Club Pinball Machine - $350 Berwyn (Philadelphia)
Another wonderful find from the master! ... although, I think you may have neglected to post the sale URL.
Quoted from bingopodcast:Need another Chicago Coin, Ryan? What a beauty!
You're not helping me with my current path of resistance, Mr. Podcast.
Gorgeous, indeed!
Quoted from RyanClaytor:A couple/few days ago, there were a whole SLEW of flipperless games that were listed on ebay from a seller named indianapickers1958. ... Then, just as quickly as they all appeared, they were all pulled. ... With all that said, I still have those pulled ads up in tabs on my browser. Due to the difficulty of finding new ads, the next several I post will be de-listed ads from the seller mentioned above.
1946 Marvel "Opportunity"
ebay.com link: VINTAGE MARVEL OPPORTUNITY PINBALL MACHINE COIN OPERATED WOOD RAIL RARE
'Opportunity' is a conversion of these games:
Gottlieb's 1940 'The Champ'
Gottlieb's 1940 'Paradise'
Gottlieb's 1941 'Sea Hawk'
Gottlieb's 1941 'Horoscope'
Gottlieb's 1941 'School Days'
Gottlieb's 1941 'Belle Hop'
Gottlieb's 1941 'A-B-C Bowler'
Gottlieb's 1941 'Miami Beach'
Gottlieb's 1941 'Spot Pool'
Gottlieb's 1941 'The New Champ'
Marvel refers to their kick-out hole as a "knockout pocket".
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1 week later
Hey Flipperless Fans,
I've been neck deep in event planning for the MSU Comics Forum ( comicsforum.msu.edu ), so not much time to post these days. Figured I'd say something instead of just dropping off the face of the Earth.
Best,
Ryan
1 week later
Quoted from AlexF:There was a 1933 Genco 42nd Street on Milwaukee Craigslist yesterday for $60. Looked nice. I was so excited but you just know a deal like that rarely works out.
Searched and didn't find it. Must be gone.
Okay, wow. Just looked up that title on IPDB. How interesting...
That's a ton of diverters. Very neat! ...and also, that's a really early example of the around-the-playfield launch as seen on 2003's Nascar:
...but I thought the origin of that layout was 1948 Williams "Speedy Way":
I didn't realize it had FLIPPERLESS origins...and in the early 30's, no less! Way cool.
Here's a neat lookin' 1946 Bally "Surf Queens"
ebay.com link: 1946 Bally SURF QUEENS Pinball Machine
Quoted from cjmiller:Keeney Big Six in Grand Island, Nebraska:
grandisland.craigslist.org link
(Not mine, but just a few blocks from me. If anyone wants to make a run at it I'd be happy to help)
Quoted from Pecos:Might be some parts here that you can use.
dayton.craigslist.org link
Thanks for the assist, guys! Here's another couple...
Gottlieb Stage Door Canteen and Drum Major:
Here's another interesting ad, this time for Williams' last flipperless game:
1947 Williams "Bonanza":
westernmass.craigslist.org link
...in a different cab! Can anyone identify the cab this was swapped into?
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Looks like IPDB (and the original flyer) show the game with a pegasus on the cab:
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Quoted from RyanClaytor:Can anyone identify the cab this was swapped into?
Quoted from Stoomer:That's a cab for Ginger: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1008
Color me impressed. Nice work, Sean!
Quoted from Stoomer:The coolest thing about this era games is the schematic is built right into the circuit board - check out my pic of the interior of Bonanza: http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=346&picno=53925
Holy hell. I guess you never have to worry about losing the schematic. Wow. Now, the top right of that looks like it's a piece of black paper, but is the rest of that backbox board SCREENPRINTED?
That would be amazing...
1940 Genco "Four Roses"
philadelphia.craigslist.org link
"Circa 1948 Genco "Four Roses" pinball machine
Complete and last used 10 years ago.
Playfield is clean, no serious signs of wear.
Backlight is clean little separation
Coin receiver works
All playfield bumpers work(ed) last time out.
Needs playfield glass and front wood rail that holds glass in."
They're asking $1200. No pix in the ad. This one's from IPDB:
Quoted from Stoomer:Hey ryanclaytor....I was under the impression that only Metro used those "liberty bell" style bumpers...then came along Four Roses!! So I went and looked...turns out they used those on 5 games in a row, with this Four Roses being the last.
So maybe finding bumpers for the Metro will be a little easier
Quoted from Tyamry:This one was just posted on Seattle's Craiglist.
seattle.craigslist.org link
O.
M.
G.
Looks gorgeous. Tremendous find, Tyamry.
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In other news...
1940 Genco "Blondie"
kansascity.craigslist.org link
No pix. Here's one from IPDB:
Happy Thursday!
So there's a "1931 pinball machine" buried in this estate sale in South Carolina:
charleston.craigslist.org link
Somebody let us know what it is when you pick it up!
1947 United "Singapore"
ebay.com link: 1940s woodrail pinball machine
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1942 Genco "Defense" (Framed Backglass only):
ebay.com link: Original Antique Vintage Pinball Machine BackGlass WWII theme DEFENSE
...still nary a documented playfield ( http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=3043&picno=65032 )
Quoted from Matesamo:Would be nice if someone had a project Kilroy and needed a better playfield.
Quoted from AlexF:Seems worth it in parts to the right guy.
Alright, you cannibals.
...I mean, I know you're probably right, I just hate to see another bite the dust.
Quoted from AlexF:I hate to see a game die also. If it was just the legs cut it wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's the missing head mechanicals that make it seem like too much trouble. For me anyway.
It's true. Just...a bummer.
BUT!!!
Quoted from Hula:Cleaned up rather nicely!
Wow-wow-wow!!! I'll say!!! Nice rescue, Hula!!!
Quoted from RyanClaytor:1940 Genco "Four Roses"
Relisted near Philly:
philadelphia.craigslist.org link
...and...
Quoted from Pecos:1938 Swing Pinball Machine by Chicago Coin Machine Co. - RARE - $400
...also relisted in the San Francisco Bay Area with a newly increased price ($500)?
1940 Chicago Coin "Sporty" - $1000 :
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1998099290466425
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Quoted from Flukebat:Hey everybody, I'm new here...
Welcome, Flukebat!
Quoted from Flukebat:I picked up a 1947 United's Hawaii flipperless machine on eBay last week...
Congrats! Looks like a neat game! Always nice to see another flipperless game in some caring hands.
Quoted from Flukebat:I was thinking about replacing the bulbs with LEDs to use less power and expose the inserts and backglass paint to less heat.
Here's another opinion for you. I would suggest not for a couple reasons:
1) LED's were not around when this game was made and would look quite out of place. As BingoPodcast mentioned...
Quoted from bingopodcast:The color/warmth of light is not the same, and you can get bulbs that require less power to light and therefore produce less heat.
2) PERSONALLY...I wouldn't worry much about the heat because you're not going to be leaving it on day-in day-out for 8 hours a day in an arcade waiting for someone to stuff a nickel in it. Now that it is in your care, it will be powered on far less frequently in the privacy of your home. For the scant minutes or hours you turn it on, it's not going to start warping plastics or burning the house down.
...again, just another opinion for you. 
Pokerino
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1046118452197877
This is an interesting one. It seems to have a different backglass (with a game title) as well as some construction differences (no hole in the top of the playfield to access the balls) from the 1947 Williams "Pokerino" on IPDB. Here's the one from the ad:
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Quoted from Ericpinballfan:Post from 67 days ago...
Well, took almost as long but the guy called me out of the blue. I had asked a bunch of questions. Well, had a Day off and nabbed it!!!
No clue, tons of questions.
What year?
Eric!!!
Congrats on the pick-up! So great to see all these pix, too, especially with such little documentation on IPDB.
PLEEEEEASE send pix to Jay at IPDB.
Quoted from I_P_D_B:BTW, this is a good time to let everyone reading this know that, if you ever see games on ebay or leboncoin or Craigslist or any other site that has a timed deadline, and you think the IPDB could benefit from having those pictures, please consider emailing us direct about it. In the body of the email, show the URL of where the pictures appear. Do NOT email us their pictures or submit their pictures via our interface. The URL will be enough. We also ask that you put the name of the game in the email Subject line along with the name of the hosting website, (ebay, Craigslist, etc.). We do not open every email the instant it comes in so if I see in the Subject line the word ebay or Craigslist, I will know there is a timed deadline and I will jump on that email right away.
I look forward to hearing from you, Ryan.
Happy New Year, folks!
19?? 'Egyptian Pin Game' (!??!) - $625 near Kansas City, MO
kansascity.craigslist.org link
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3 weeks later
A nice-looking...
1940 Chicago Coin "Yacht-Club"
...listed for $300 near Philly:
philadelphia.craigslist.org link
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1932 J.P. Seeburg "Gold Coast"
$650 in Florida:
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Hot dang...
1933 Gottlieb "Big Broadcast"
...a really nice toilet seat game for $900. Jeff way2wyrd , are you traveling through KY anytime soon?
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Huh! I've not seen this one before...
1939 Keeny "Big Six"
grandisland.craigslist.org link
$500 in Grand Island, NE
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Quoted from way2wyrd:I have a friend driving up to lexington this week actually. Hmm.....
Looks like it's right up your alley, Jeff.
1946 Bally "Entry"
$300 around Seattle, WA
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From Mr. P this morning:
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Whizz Bang, 1932 Gottlieb: $400.00
This gorgeous all wooden machine has been in grandpa's bedroom closet for many years and is in excellent condition except for being dirty. Lots of great pictures available. I don't want to try to clean it and ruin its value.
Cindy Flowers Phone: (708) 712-3651
[email protected], Orland Park, Illinois 60467
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Another horsie game...
Bally "Lexington"
...for $350 in Washington (State). Have we seen this one before? ...I can't remember and I'm too lazy to check. Regardless, here we go:
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Quoted from Hula:'Large storage bin full of pinball machines. Over 100'
Yup, this ad comes up frequently.
1947 Chicago Coin's "Play Boy" for $300:
easternshore.craigslist.org link
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1932 Mills "Official"
FOR TRADE in Pueblo, CO
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Quoted from ZNET:I located the "before" and "after" photos of these two restoration projects, posted here.
As the photos reveal, the Spot Bowler was in need of a lot of love. Jack sent photos in advance so I knew the extent of my undertaking. I found Jack to be delightful. I much enjoy sharing pinball stories with longtime enthusiasts, like Jack. I know that Jack had hoped to sell his remaining games in large lots. Alas, piecemeal sales are more likely and he has probably acknowledged that reality by now.
The only game which consumed more of my restoration time than this Spot Bowler was my EM Whoa Nellie (Continental Cafe conversion). Who can resist a Spot Bowler, even a half-dead one? Apparently, not me.
Can you please move closer to Michigan so that I can visit your collection?
Great work, as usual, Bruce.
1940 Genco "Cadillac" (not a 1942 Sullivan Nolan "Cadillac" [conversion game] as the ad mentions and I originally listed here) in nice shape:
Please pay no attention to the following sentences, as they were typed prior to chatting with Jay of IPDB: (No pix on IPDB. Jay has been notified. Anyone have ideas of what this game was a conversion OF? A-hem 
Stoomer a-hem...'scuse me.)
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I heard back from Jay at IPDB already. Despite STILL being in the throws of correcting the site mishap of this past week, he's still returning my email. Good guy. Anyhow, he rightfully pointed out that the pictures shown above were from a GENCO "Cadillac", not the conversion game by Sullivan Nolan. Darn it...thought we had another undocumented gem here. Oh well.
Because I've Jay's astute observation, I've revised my original post.
A beautiful project 1940 Bally "Triumph"
...and the price is right at only $200 in Sacto, CA:
sacramento.craigslist.org link
Enjoy...
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Quoted from RyanClaytor:A beautiful project 1940 Bally "Triumph"
...and the price is right at only $200 in Sacto, CA:
sacramento.craigslist.org link
Enjoy...
P.S. The cabinet looks like it's different than the promo photos for this game:
...and the images uploaded to IPDB:
Just curious if anyone knows what game this cabinet:
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...was originally paired with.
P.P.S. Looks like the backbox is original:
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Quoted from DCRand:Hi, I am owner, guessing that it is either model 1 or 2 as it appears there were two models of this game, and they may have had different cabs. Jay at ipbd is trying to sort it out. Bought this with Chicago Coin Swing in a package deal and can only keep one. Seller commented someone had talked about a coffee table conversion for it and didn’t want it to have that fate. So really hoping to find a home with someone who will restore it. I just don’t have room.
Thank you for offering a very fair deal to someone who will keep it as it's intended use, A PINBALL TABLE, not a coffee table.
Finally, welcome to the thread. It's a beautiful game. I hope you can find an interested buyer with the right skill-set to bring it back to life. You're in a good place for such a search.
Quoted from DCRand:Ryan,
Good eye. Just found the label in pic below inside side cabinet door. So I have a Beauty of a Triumph. What the heck do I do with this machine? I really can't keep it and would be a shame to part it out or have it junked. Any ideas?
There are some Facebook groups you could post to. If you want some help with that, please let me know. I'd be happy to help post on your behalf if you're not on Facebook. Perhaps that would get it in front of some more non-coffee table enthusiasts eyes.
It really is a beauty! 
Quoted from DennisDodel:Says "$600.00 each" in the ad.
I stand corrected, and so does my post. Pardon my sleepy oversight and thanks for your eagle eye, Dennis.
An atypical ad from Mr. P this morning:
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Fleet, 1940 Bally: 1000
Excellent condition, backglass 10, playfield 9, cabinet 8, just shopped plays as it should on coin.rotating center cannons, 2 side cannons.
George Phone: 425 478 9959
Gold Bar, Washington
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Quoted from AlexF:They don't get much earlier than this one.
https://www.ebth.com/items/8581975-circa-1880-m-redgrave-s-parlor-bagatelle-table-game
Quoted from AlexF:1940 Bally Charm. Name seems fitting.
chicago.craigslist.org link
Nice finds, Alex! Thanks for the posts!
These must have been like the Addams Family's of the 1930's...
1932 Genco "Jiggers"
...a good looker, fun gameplay mechanics, and they MUST have produced a TON of 'em. I feel like I see this 30's title more than any other.
Regardless, there's a project listing in Iowa asking $125:
cedarrapids.craigslist.org link
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Quoted from Hula:I thought so too Alex. I'll be sure to keep you posted on the cleaning/gentle-resto process when I get to that. It's supposed to be constructed from black walnut, so it should look beautiful once cleaned and oiled properly.
Congrats on the purchase! Please post pix here, or link to a resto thread. Y'know, once your LEDs show up. Should we start brainstorming topper suggestions?
Quoted from Pecos:Genco South-Paw. "1940's Baseball Pinball Arcade Machine for Sale. DOES NOT WORK - great graphics. Giants and Tigers. Found in a basement. Very Heavy. $350 or best offer."
Price reduced from 350 to 250.
1932 Gottlieb "Five Star Final" for $400 in Holton, MA:
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Quoted from Hula:That is a rather peculiar ball lift handle.
Lifting a ball or entering your front door. You decide!
Quoted from AlexF:This looks interesting for the money. Couldn't find it in IPDB.
ebay.com link » Early 1930s Coin Op Pinball Bagatelle Game Vintage
Nice find, Alex! I emailed Jay about it.
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In other news, a nice-lookin' 1936 Bally "Bumper" in Rhode Island for $650:
providence.craigslist.org link
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Quoted from AlexF:Couldn't find it in IPDB.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:I emailed Jay about it.
Heard back! Jay is on the case! Good work, Alex!
1 week later
No report of a flipperless for sale, but rather another flipperless PURCHASED! I nabbed this gorgeous example of a 1940 Genco "Metro" this past weekend and I'm excited it's all set-up and fully-functional in my basement.
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Man, this thing is gorgeous. ...and FUN! Cool ruleset on this one with a couple difference sequences and a very early bonus collect (not simply available by draining!).
Quoted from RyanClaytor:1947 United "Singapore" for $400 in Columbus, OH:
...love that saggy frosted plexy.
Still for sale. New ad. Same price:
Oh my...here's an item of interest!
1932 Keeny & Sons "Rainbo" for $700:
Only one color photograph on IPDB. I notified Jay about this ad so that IPDB might be populated with them as well:
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1 week later
Alright, who's gonna save this nice-lookin'...
1940 Bally "Glamour" for only $200(!!!)
Here's the ad:
...and the pix:
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Quoted from Hula:Thanks for digging these gems out Ryan.
Thanks for sending some appreciation! Your example looks quite GLAMOURous! Thanks, too, for sharing!
Quoted from Hula:Surprisingly addictive game though, and the table artwork/illustrations are exceptionally well done.
I poked around on YouTube but couldn't find a gameplay video. What are the chances of convincing you to shoot and upload one? 
Quoted from AlexF:This Gottlieb Score Board looks pretty neat. It appears to be missing the coin door.
milwaukee.craigslist.org link
Ha! Neat! I've got Gottlieb's OTHER Score-Board:
...always been curious about (but too forgetful/lazy to look up on IPDB) what its predecessor looked like. Thanks for doing that work for me.
Quoted from Schamattack:Looks cool but man for 1k could get a pretty legit EM.
...or a pretty legit "M". That is, indeed, a cool-lookin' game with a heck of a casting!
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Anyhow, how about another ad. Just found this:
1937 Genco "Silver Flash" for $525 near Cleveland, OH
Not sure if it's functional but it looks awfully nice.
(UPDATE: Just heard back from the seller, "it is all original, and will need a tune up to work fully. cleaning of contacts, lube. clean moving parts, power supply is not working but ran it 25 years ago with battery charger and worked fine.sold as is." Hope this helps someone here. I'm maxed-out on space (I know I know, you've heard that before), but I won't be going after this one. Good luck!):
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Quoted from AlexF:Here's another neat one with some cool castings. 1934 Cannon Fire Jr. at a fair price. This one has it's coin door. Seems uncommon on this era.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/475916836174261
Wow, that looks neat. Complete with firing cannons. Way cool! Thanks for posting that, Alex!
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Here's an awfully pretty project...
1935 Jennings "Sportsman" for $400 in Columbus, OH:
Talk about castings! (Drools!!!) ...and just look at the fabulous bullet-shaped leg hardware!
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Quoted from RyanClaytor:Here's a squeaky clean 1947 Genco "Broncho"
ebay.com link » Rare 1947 Broncho 1 Player Pinball Game By Genco
...and the glamour shots. *wipes the drool from my lip*
4 months later, it looks as though this seller is still trying to move his immaculately kept...
1947 Genco "Broncho"
...this time on Craigslist for $700:
Quoted from AlexF:1947 P&S Tom Tom. This one has been on my short list forever but I won't be able to get up there to get it. At least for awhile. I'd like to see it get saved though as it's such a rare and cool game. More arcade than pinball but it is flipperless and has a plunger.
appleton.craigslist.org link
Alex!
I've never even heard of this title before. I can't even figure out what in the world it is! ...besides more of everything I want:
It's in your home state, Alex. With this being so high on your wishlist (and who knows when/if you're ever gonna see one again), I really hope you nab it. Please, at least contact the seller if you've not already. Maybe he'd be willing to hang onto it for a bit if you paypal him a deposit to let him know you're serious. It's worked for me before.
*begging*
-Ryan
Quoted from Pecos:"1940 Genco wood real pinball $250" - 'Four Roses'
Quoted from jrpinball:Gorgeous machine!
Amen!
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And another sweet pick-up for someone here with a FUNCTIONAL:
1946 Bally "Surf Queen" for $175 Buy-it-now
ebay.com link: 1946 Bally Pinball Machine Surf Queens Works Nice restoration project
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minneapolis.craigslist.org link
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ebay.com link: 1933 Bally The Pennant Mechanical Pinball Machine Super Rare in AMAZING SHAPE
Playfield is bonkers...outside of a minor ball trail, SO NICE!
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Quoted from RyanClaytor:1935 Mills "Ten Grand"
ebay.com link » Like
What an odd machine with that giant coin-holder (payout unit?) right in front of the player. In a change of pace, the pictures in this ad are the exact images listed on IPDB. o_O
Well, I barely did. Anyhow, looks like it's STILL for sale, 4 months later:
ebay.com link: Gaming Pinball Machine Ten Grand 1935 Mills Novelty Company
And just for posterity sake, it's got a starting bid of $1299 and located in Wooster, Ohio.
"Nice 2 axle pull trailer that lifts up to be the worlds tallest pinball machine game!"
...which happens to be flipperless.
columbusga.craigslist.org link
Images are not from ad, but from a quick google search:
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Quoted from way2wyrd:We need that at TPF @edintexas
Says there's about six of them in existence. One of them has got to be near Texas (everything bigger and all).
Just inquired about this ad in Seattle:
...and received this from the seller:
"Yes, the pinball is 1930's machine called "Lightning" made by Exhibit Supply, Chicago. It has no flippers or back board, kind of flat. It uses old original marbles instead of steel balls and when it drops into the Lightning hole, a solenoid kicks the ball out and you score more points,etc. Yopu may be able to google it and see what it looks like, it is in excellent condition. I'm thinking maybe $300 on it."
I'm guessing it might be this:
193(X???) Bally "Rambler"
Currently for auction on eBay at $117.50 with a day an a half remaining, located in Concord, NC:
ebay.com link: Bally Pinball Machine Rambler 1 cent Coin Operated Table Top 1930s
The example listed on eBay bares no resemblance to the 1936 Bally "Rambler" listed on IPDB:
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1914&picno=67952&zoom=1
IPDB Jay has been concacted. In case Jay is unable to secure permissions for the photos from eBay, here they are for posterity:
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So it is! I guess I should have read some of those pesky words on the 1936 entry and I would have gained that knowledge outside of a public forum. Ha-ha! *sigh* Regardless, thanks for the education, Dennis!
A Beautiful 1938 Daval "Odd Ball" for $500 in Northern California:
In my memory, this is the first example of a Daval-manufactured pingame on this thread. There's also a ton of nicely shot photographs, including one of the serial number (which I submitted to the IPSND - http://www.ipsnd.net/view.aspx?id=1691 ). Jay has also been contacted in an attempt to add some of these to the database:
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...
...wait for it...
...
...$3,999.99.
Regardless, here's the ad...
ebay.com link: Rare Antique 1937 Pre War Pre Bumper Ricochet Stoner Pinball Machine
...and the pix:
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ebay.com link: Fully Restored Vintage Uniteds Havana 5c Pinball Machine arcade game
...from United in 1947, for a mere $1,750:
s-l1600 (1) (resized).jpgs-l1600 (2) (resized).jpgs-l1600 (3) (resized).jpgs-l1600 (4) (resized).jpgQuoted from jrpinball:Another gorgeous machine, but not $1750 gorgeous!
Yup, but some eye-candy nevertheless.
Hey flipperless thread family,
I'm doing a thing:
...thanks for any help you can lend.
Thanks a bunch,
Ryan
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Havana, ooo nah-nah...
...another one:
This time in Raymond, NH instead of Binghamton, NY. This time $300 instead of $1750.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Havana, ooo nah-nah...
...aaand another one:
This time in Reno, NV instead of Raymond, NH. This time $1200 instead of $300. ...but this time, "VERY VERY RARE" according to the ad's title.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:1932 Pierce "Hoop-er-doo"
This one from five months back is still kickin' around:
ebay.com link: 1942 Antique Nickel Coin Op Pinball Machine
...likely because of the $899.99 starting bid. Anyhow, it's in Fort Worth, Texas.
Time to make a deal, way2wyrd .
Quoted from AlexF:Whizz Bang for $350 in Chicago. Very dry looking. I bet it would really soak up a new coat of finish but could be a nice transformation.
chicago.craigslist.org link
Good find, Alex! Thanks for posting. *high fives*
1941 Exhibit "Sky Blazer" in Westerville, Ohio. Current bid $100:
ebay.com link: Exhibits Sky Blazer Pinball Machine
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I've only seen one other Skyblazer, and it had no backglass. I really like the backglass art!
Those Exhibit glasses are always so colorful. Love how they rainbow-ize the points/score on almost all their games. Haha! So cool.
Here's a rare one, UNPHOTOGRAPHED on IPDB! (Jay has been contacted.)
A 1936 California Games "Marble Parade" in Washington for $495 in working condition
Quoted from ZNET:1936 Rockola Queen Mary in Minnesota. $3,900 buy-it-now on eBay.
Thanks for the listing, Bruce! Wow, this must be the night for unphotographed games from 1936! Queen Mary doesn't have any photos documented on IPDB, either! I've contacted Jay again regarding this title. In the meantime, here are the photographs:
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Hey Cait,
Wrong thread for this opinion. Hope you enjoy the posts here.
Best,
Ryan
Anyone know what this game is? Looks like a Gottlieb "Five Star Final" knock-off.
ebay.com link: Vintage Pinball Machine
Regardless, it's for sale in Yucca Valley, California with the bidding at $305 with 20 hours to go.
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Def less features than Five-Star Final, which it's based off of.
less metal cups, less pins used, seems like cheaper wood, etc
The video mentions there were various knockoffs, and IPDB even has this as "Unknown manufacturer"
Nice work, Cait!
VintageVideoGames.com in McLean, IL is purging a bunch of project pins listed here:
https://www.vintagevideogames.com/project-pinball-sale
...and I spotted a couple of flipperless games in the bunch:
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Yacht Club - $800 - 1940 Chicago Coin - 1,506 produced - A Pre-flipper pinball game with great artwork and in great condition.
What makes this one a project: Just needs a little tweaking. There isn't a lot to these early pre-flipper games. Just needs set up and checked to see if it's all working, and if not, some tweaking done.
This game is in excellent condition...especially considering it is 78 years old. cabinet, playfield, even backglass are in great shape. Still has original legs and original painted coin door.
Pictures: https://photos.app.goo.gl/vuhV5k9fpMUWd9L77
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Hawaii - $500 - 1947 United - unknown production - This is a beautiful pre-flipper machine.
What makes this one a project: I've never set it up and plugged it in. Looks to be pretty much complete and in good shape. It might be fully working - don't know. Bought it about 10 years ago from a guy with a ton of machines who had no idea whether it worked or not, and I never even set it up. Either way, shouldn't be too hard to get fully working -these early games are pretty simple mechanically.
Also, this game is physically in remarkably good condition for its age. The backglass looks nice, minimal flaking overall. The playfield looks gorgeous, very little wear. The cabinet even is in pretty nice condition, including the original coin door which is fairly uncommon.
Quoted from DennisDodel:Check out that angled head.
3 months later
Another one that needs saving, this time from Mr. Pinball:
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Show Girl, 1946 Williams
Barn find. Backglass is pretty nice. Playfield looks pretty good. Head looks good and solid. Rest of game OK condition. For parts or restoration.
Bryan Phone: 937-492-5692
Sidney, Ohio, ABOVE DAYTON OHIO
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...and another:
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Ballyround, 1932 Bally: 650.00
Nice condition rare "Ballyround" round pinball machine. Bally tried, but the design didn't catch on. Playfield is an 8, all notice stickers are there. Ball lift mechanism works. Missing a small trim piece on the bottom.
Sully
[email protected], North Plainfield, New Jersey 07060
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1 week later
Quoted from cait001:Just reserved a PAMCO Contact Master and a Bally Challenger, to be received later this year.
Can you believe this jerk would disparage one ball games? What's her problem?
Ha-ha! Welcome back, Cait! Awfully big of you to keep an open mind and realize the worth and fun in these games. Glad you're here! Keep us updated when your new treasures arrive and when you get 'em up and running!
Best,
Ryan
3 months later
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Spellbound, 1946 Chicago Coin: 299
Pre-flipper game with flippers. Includes coin door (hard to find on these older machines). Backglass is rough but playfield is in great shape. Machine's parts are all there, just taken off machine. Great project to restore, or utilize it for all the parts. Needs a nice restoration. Have fun with this one. Alfred Hitchcock fans should appreciate this one. Prefer local pick-up but would assist w/ shipping. Best offers welcome or would trade.
Charles Rosenay Phone: (203) 641-6505
[email protected], Orange, Connecticut 06477
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2 weeks later
Here's a beauty that just showed up on Facebook today!
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Title: 1937 Pamco "Hi-De-Ho"
Price: $750
Description: I have a Pacific Amusement Company Pinball Machine. It's a PAMCO Hi De Ho Pinball Machine. It is complete & in good condition. Unrestored but well cared for. I am unsure of the year but I believe it is between 1931 & 1937. I am looking to sell it. I have been told that the legs may not be original but everything else appears to be original.
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I chat with the seller today via Facebook and he seems awfully cool. He agreed to take additional pictures and send them to Jay at IPDB. I asked if I could post his email here and he said that would be fine:
MosquitoRanch1 ~at~ aol ~dot~ com
He had a great story about finding the game and said that he would listen to offers! He's also open to trades for "newer" machines, as he was looking for something from 1970's or 1980's when this machine came his way, and is willing to add cash for the right deal.
C'mon! Someone in the south go save this gem, restore it to working order, and report back here to make the rest of us jealous!
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Location: Mississippi, about an hour from NOLA
Quoted from bingopodcast:Where is it located?
In Mississippi, about an hour from NOLA.
2 months later
Quoted from cait001:is... is it just me or is this the most boring pre-war game? Only 3 things to shoot for... Am I missing something?
Judging by the point values, that left most shot must be near impossible. It looks like the game is essentially a skill shot. I can understand the suspense and satisfaction of achieving a really challenging skill shot, but I can't fully grasp why that left shot would be 10x as difficult as the right most shot, but perhaps we're both missing something. Ha-ha!
3 weeks later
Quoted from Spyder138:White Sails project $200
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Gorgeous game, and good pictures, too! I contacted I_P_D_B about possibly adding these different and better pix to the database.
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