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Wanted to give a heads-up to anyone that can make it to Canada Pincon http://canadapincon.com/
We are doing a small history of pinball booth with these:
1932 Bally Goofy
1935 Bally Bumper
1932 Ballyhoo
1939 Keeney Thriller
1954 Surf Club bingo
If you can also contribute, please get in touch!
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:Need more pics on this one. Im close enough to purchase. But price seems a little high.
I'd say!
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Wrong thread for this opinion. Hope you enjoy the posts here.
I pump nickels into bingo machines until I get DOUBLE HOLD lit for maximum plunges 
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But I do love and appreciate the photos, even if 1-ball payout isn't my jam.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Anyone know what this game is? Looks like a Gottlieb "Five Star Final" knock-off.
Pic says "Six Star". https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4615
Def less features than Five-Star Final, which it's based off of.
less metal cups, less pins used, seems like cheaper wood, etc
The video mentions there were various knockoffs, and IPDB even has this as "Unknown manufacturer"
Quoted from ZNET:Glad to see that you got those Vermont Signals. Fantastic deal. Congratulations.
thank you for the tip! I haven't had time to test them yet. We were booted from our venue since the power grid was taken out by a tornado. The paint job and cast aluminum are beautiful on the senior, but I might keep the Junior because it's smaller.
Just reserved a PAMCO Contact Master and a Bally Challenger, to be received later this year. 
Can you believe this jerk would disparage one ball games? What's her problem?
Quoted from cait001:1 ball games seem so boring!
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Quoted from cait001: 1 ball games seem so boring!
Hey Cait,
Wrong thread for this opinion. Hope you enjoy the posts here.
Best,
Ryan
Quoted from bingopodcast:Out of curiosity, what changed your mind?
My initial comment was just uneducated glibness. But an opportunity presented itself and it might be fun to work on an odds reel.
anyone near Springfield, Illinois? Great price on this Ritzy with legs! ebay.com link: Vintage 1930s RITZY Pinball Machine in Working Order
Ad also says he has a Five Star Final and World's Series for sale.
what do y'all think this one is worth? ebay.com link: Penny Antique Pinball Tabletop Machine Vintage Cards Poker 5 Ball Wood Pin Ball
It was posted at $300, $200, now $150. Very basic game though.
What do you think a good price for a Ballyround is? this has been on Mr. Pinball for a wihle but seems rather high
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Ballyround, 1932 Bally: 650.00
Nice condition rare "Ballyround" round pinball machine. Bally tried, but the design didn't catch on. Playfield is an 8, all notice stickers are there. Ball lift mechanism works. Missing a small trim piece on the bottom.
Sully
North Plainfield, New Jersey 07060
Posted: 23 October 2018
Kind of cool to see: a home toy version of World's Series ebay.com link: Vintage 1920s Pinch Hitter Metal Baseball Pinball game
a Fleet machine is here: ebay.com link: Antique 1933 BALLY FLEET 3000 CANNON PIN BALL MACHINE Arcade XXX Rare NR
$500 opening bid, Orlando Florida.
Quoted from way2wyrd:Its Hitting the Action hole thats hard to do.
Thanks for stopping by and playing. Were hoping to be bigger and better next year!
--Jeff
https://www.facebook.com/prewarpinball/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/prewar/
I wish I could travel, I have so much to add and share.
Quoted from cait001:a Fleet machine is here: ebay.com link » Antique 1933 Bally Fleet 3000 Cannon Pin Ball Machine Arcade Xxx Rare Nr
$500 opening bid, Orlando Florida.
Just a heads up on this one, the seller appears to be a huge asshole. Would not recommend doing business with him.
someone posted Rockola legs in the Allentown thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinfest-2019-buy-sell-trade-want-no-hotel-talk/page/24#post-4961562
Quoted from setzkor:Saw this one today. I'm guessing it's the 1933 Grand Slam... But not sure.
is... is it just me or is this the most boring pre-war game? Only 3 things to shoot for... Am I missing something?
Quoted from SilverLiningMan:This is up locally and I’m wondering about your assessment.
the wording of the post shows he's already lowered his price. It's a beautiful looking machine, but the demand on a machine like that, a PROJECT machine like that no less, is very very low.
You might eventually be able to get it for $400
someone please buy this gorgeous horse racing machine ebay.com link: Vintage Winterbook Derby Horse Racing Coin Operated Game
Quoted from shlockdoc:Question, the game has 5 plastic balls in it currently though calls for 10. I did not think plastic balls were original. Does any know the type of balls that were original and who sells those? Also where could I find any documentation to read upon it like an operating manual?
Cool looking game. If the balls that are currently there seem like a proper size then just stick with that size. Measure it with a digital caliper.
Marco specialties can sell you metal balls of all sorts of sizes. https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/BALL-STEEL?VIEW_SIZE=60&view=card&sortOrder=SortProductField:totalTimesViewed
For some games I prefer using marbles, and you can get many sizes here https://www.moonmarble.com/c-47-bulk-marbles.aspx
but there is more variance in marbles, so I measure the ones I get and settle on 10 that are most within a desired range.
A 1940 Genco Formation popped up for sale on Facebook in West Lincoln, ON. (44 miles West of Buffalo, NY)
The advert is titled "1930s pinball machine"
Nice backglass, decent playfield.
They are asking $499 (Canadian!) so $380 USD approx
1951 Gottlieb Watch My Line: ebay.com link: Rare 1951 Gottlieb Whats My Line Woodrail Pinball Shopped Beautiful L K
How does the scoring work on Watch My Line? I understand the lines giving replays, but what's up with the scoring?
Is this the final game to be made with a figure 8 playfield, popularized by games like Five Star Final?
Quoted from Wmsfan-GAP:Zero feedback seller, so do be careful.
it's pickup only, and purchase is protected, so I wouldn't be too worried. If someone's in the area go check it out.
Quoted from Wmsfan-GAP:So I decided what the heck and reached out to seller to see if he'd take cash at pick-up (allowing me to view it and deal in person) and to se how soon he needed it picked up. He definitely wants it picked up sooner than later. We did some back and forth conversation, and I offered him $800 and I'd come out and get it this weekend. He was all for pickup this weekend- but was concerned as he had see this game sell for $4500.....so he politely declined which is fine, but it does give you an indication that he is really looking for a LOT more. My feeling is he prolly would have passed at 1500...
I'm suuuuuper sceptical he saw a Skill Parade sell for 4500.
Quoted from Wmsfan-GAP:So I decided what the heck and reached out to seller to see if he'd take cash at pick-up (allowing me to view it and deal in person) and to se how soon he needed it picked up. He definitely wants it picked up sooner than later. We did some back and forth conversation, and I offered him $800 and I'd come out and get it this weekend.
So it's just about the weekend, he wants it gone, yet it's received zero bids? I would maybe follow up with dude and see if he wants to change his mind. Either way, I'm sending him a $300 offer. 
Time to buckle in for winter projects, folks! What do you all have in mind for fixing this winter?
I'm doing a bunch of work on my Signal, Merry-Go-Round, Contact Master, a Ballwin machine, a Corinthball, etc etc
Jim offering an amazing package deal for the York show: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/white-rose-gameroom-york-show-2019-buy-sell-trade-no-hotel-amp-food/page/17#post-5248730
someone posted a project machine of a 1949 Bally Hot-Rods... for $2500 USD. I don't know what some people are smoking but this was in the same group where someone tried to post a Super Mario Mushroom World for $6000, then lowered it to $4800... I guess some people hope to find a sucker more than they want the space.
Here's the entry at IPDB: https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1246
Has anyone played Hot-Rods before? It's a variant of the old "all 5 balls roll down at once" horse race trade stims, but with contemporary-to-the-time replay gambling logic thrown on top.
You select a horse (1-7) with the front knob, insert a coin. 5 balls are loaded in the shooter lane and you send them all out at once.
Winner slots at the bottom are numbered 1-7, plus a left and right "Blow Out" drains (which you can see someone has taken out of service in one of the playfield photos)
Get one ball in your bet hole, it's 3 credits. Get more balls in? 5, 8, 20, 40 credits awarded. (good luck...)
You can actually play up to 7 horses, one coin per horse, but why?
Let's look at the math...
Assuming we play one horse, assuming the drains are in play, each ball has a 1 in 9 chance of landing in our winning horse hole (0.111 repeated)
The odds of NOT winning? 8 in 9. 8/9 = 0.88888 repeated
The odds of 5 outs? (8/9)^5 = 0.5549
Therefore the odds at least one WIN? = 1 - 0.5549 = 0.445
I'm not even going to look at the odds of the higher payouts for multiple balls in the winning slot, let's look at the expected values:
5 outs: 1 coin bet, 0 coins won, net of -1
Expected net value: -1 * 0.55493 = -0.55493
not 5 outs: 1 coin bet, 3 coins won, net of 2
Expected net value: 2 * 0.4451 = 0.890
The sum expected value of a single try? -0.55493 + 0.890 = 0.335
So just playing with one bet, you are expecting an overall net gain per try.
If you were to remove the outlanes and the odds for a win become 1/7, the net expected value jumps to 0.612!
This MUST have been a poorly received machine because it's not set to make the operator any money!
If you reduced it to only 3 balls played, THEN the operator would start having profit.
$90 Gottlieb Marjorie in Connecticut ebay.com link: USED Gottlieb Marjorie Pinball
$800 for a 1934 Drop Kick in unknown working condition seems high but you can make an offer ebay.com link: ANTIQUE COIN OP EXHIBIT SUPPLY DROP KICK BAGATELLE PINBALL MACHINE 1934
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:ODIN, i owe you a 12 pack!
Home safe, and plays great
So stoked, owe you bro.
Congrats! It's a super game, one of my favourite purely mechanicals up there with World's Series.
My copy is out being worked on at the moment.
if it works, $1200 for a Rock-ola Big Game is right on the money.
Extremely collectible because Rock-ola, but also it's the first pinball machine with a "synthesized sound". Seems like an odd mech to claim that since we had electric buzzers 2 years earlier. but ah well. This will easily sell for $1k imo
Quoted from mrm_4:My god I’d love to have this sitting next to my ‘47 United Rio but MO is too far for me. Someone buy this and put me out of my misery.
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/102124
Heh looks like someone moved the bottom left rubber to make it even harder to get good scores!
playfield looks unfaded and backglass is in great shape, someone should definitely grab this.
$500 obo 1993 Rocket in California
ebay.com link: 1933 Bally ROCKET Auto Race PAY OUT Pinball EM Coin Operated Arcade Game Project
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Title: 1937 Pamco "Hi-De-Ho"
Price: $750
Description: I have a Pacific Amusement Company Pinball Machine. It's a PAMCO Hi De Ho Pinball Machine. It is complete & in good condition. Unrestored but well cared for. I am unsure of the year but I believe it is between 1931 & 1937. I am looking to sell it. I have been told that the legs may not be original but everything else appears to be original.
- --- ----- --- -I chat with the seller today via Facebook and he seems awfully cool. He agreed to take additional pictures and send them to Jay at IPDB. I asked if I could post his email here and he said that would be fine:
Well it looks like the pictures aren't up at IPDB. 
Quoted from AlexF:Here's an attractive game. Looks like it would be something Cait001 would have in her collection. Says it's from Cincinnati but looks English or German to me? Also l imagine this had lock instead of a latch on it originally.
https://www.ebth.com/items/12081775-coney-island-wondermatic-wooden-tabletop-penny-pinball-machine-1920s-1930s
Yup, totally up my ally. That's an allwin, a British machine. Not from 1920, from the mid 1950s.
I've owned a handful of allwins before. simple machines, but also simple fun. And purely mechanical!
Some non-original parts on the inside, and one thing you see in a lot of British machines is the wood worms. But if it goes for under $500 that is a fair price for a 24 Cups.
I'm in the market for some 19th century stuff if anyone wants to sell...
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/wtb-19th-century-redgrave-bagatelle
Quoted from Irishbastard:Curious, I'm not a flipperless guy, any idea what this is worth?
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As it sits, probably $200
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