X-Men (LE)

Stern

X-Men (LE)

Pinside Rating

This game received 292 approved Pinsider ratings and currently rates 8.037 /10

8.037

Top 100 ranking

This game ranks 1st in the game group "X-Men". The group itself ranks #75 in the Pinside Pinball Top 100.



Score breakdown

Score breakdown in the 4 main categories:

Game Design: 7.88

Artwork: 8.525

Sounds/Music: 7.347

Other Aspects: 8.13


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This title is part of group: "X-Men"


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10.000/10
11 years ago
So much to do and see in this game and challenging to boot. A helluva great pin.
9.900/10
11 years ago
John Borg absolutely nailed this table. Artwork is the best imo on a modern pinball (Wolverine). Code update 1.24 just shows the potential this game has if they continue along the same lines.
10.000/10
11 years ago
My favorite stern ...
this game is a killer
9.720/10
11 years ago
EDIT - re scored this game after 1.5 came out. This game is a blast. Deadpool has made a great game even better. Love it!

I have held off on reviewing the game until 1.24 came out as 1.23 was truly a hot mess. So far I love the direction of the code for 1.24. Great stacking, with the ability to choose what all should stack. I personally love the ability to stack a hero once I start a villain. Much better use of Nightcrawler. Far fewer bugs than before. Game is a LOT of fun to play. Manic at times, but very deep with lots of modes to play. Great villain multiballs.

As for the LE additions, I love the Nightcrawler popups. Spinning disc is subtle, but a solid addition to the randomness of the game (and amazing for Magneto multiball). Iceramp is ok, but needs to be implemented better.

Dots and callouts are great except for beast. Extremely well done voices for the most part.

Cabinet, playfield and powder coating for my LE Magneto look amazing.

This game is almost a great one. One more solid update adding Deadpool, combos, Dark Phoenix, and fix up the remaining bugs and this will be a killer game.
9.640/10
11 years ago
Fantastic Game, Lots to do. It gets a bad rap because of all of the code bugs, even with these bugs it blows away other higher rated games.
10.000/10
11 years ago
Perfec stern
10.000/10
11 years ago
with new code game rocks
9.056/10
11 years ago
Xmen has a couple of software bugs that will probably get fixed in the next release. The bugs are minor and rarely occur. Other than that, this is an awesome pin.

The Good: Nice shots, spinning magnet. Engaging music and gameplay. Not a movie theme.

The Bad: The paint is going to chip off the womvlie target over time. Cheesey ice ramp decals
but easily corrected with icicle mod and/or powder coating.

The Ugly: The game rules are NOT documented anywhere. Lame!
8.452/10
11 years ago
I really enjoyed this game at CP Pinball. The Magneto multi-ball is awesome. I will admit that I am a sucker for magnets in pinball.
10.000/10
11 years ago
After having this game for several months I can say its the ultimate, gets the most action in the game room. Beautiful, with difficult shots, great music! It's got night crawlers that pop up out of the Playfield how cool!
8.324/10
11 years ago
Fast, fun, endless combos, total chaos from the magnets, and you're never safe from a drain. Code has some problems, and rules need to be tightened up, and it could be a masterpiece. Right now, as of 1.23, the code is holding it back. A few rating areas took hits based on code or rule probelms as of now.
10.000/10
11 years ago
I've been waiting to review this for awhile. Graphics are amazing. I'm so glad they stayed with the comic and avoided to movie theme. This game is a great example of code changes. If I had rated it of the first code, it would have been way lower. The second code helped. The last release from around Christmas is amazing. My friends and I are addicted now. My favorite used to be Addams Family. With this new code release this is my new favorite game.
5.322/10
11 years ago
tried to like this machine....Played several different tables with many games, but was no fun at all.
Very cheesy and Clunky toys and the flow sucked. One of the few pinball machines that I can walk away from easily.
6.726/10
11 years ago
One of my favorite stern I played so far.
8.936/10
11 years ago
Fastest most unpredictable ball movement in pinball. Shots are extremely tight. Love the art and Light show. Call outs are great and spot on. Music is awesome. Can't wait for finished wizard mode to be implemented.
8.836/10
11 years ago
I rate it the same as pro. I don't see the added value between the two.
9.606/10
11 years ago
I've got a good 200 games on an LE. This game is slowly becoming my favorite pin of all time...pushing my AFM and MB to the side. The shots are tight but very make-able. If you're not a good shot maker..you probably won't like this game at all. The code as it sits now (1.21) does need some bug fix but...I'd certainly take it the way it is.

This is probably the only game I own that I could care less about the theme. I never watched x-men...nor even knew the x-men characters before owning the pin. Stern has a real opportunity to crush the pinball world with the next code update. X-men is oozing with potential

Update after 1.24 code release. Finally the rules are starting to come together. Brotherhood and HellFire MB are so well done. The Spinning disc MB start is probably one of the coolest toys in pinball. The gap is pretty big between the Pro and LE stuff. The Spinning Disc and NightCrawlers really add to the fun factor. Rogue and the crazy fast moving NC mode is cool as hell
6.882/10
11 years ago
just can't get into the flow. played over 100 games i think so far on wolverine. love the lights and toys, not so much the layout, gameplay, and rules.
7.586/10
11 years ago
Stern are improving in terms of fast, addictive games. Great light show. Spinner is epic and magnets throw the ball all over. Keeps you on your toes as it is very fast. One of my favourite Stern's ever. Found it more fun than Tron LE. There are issues, apart from poor QC, in that the code of the villains are just so hard and that in itself explains recent sales. If they get the rules right, this could be really special. Will update after the powerpack. Update. Code still not great. Very hard, bordering on frustration. Not enough rewards. Lost my patience with this title.
8.388/10
11 years ago
Superb game from Stern/John Borg that shines in the gameplay and lighting department. Fast, magnet city, semi-difficult ramp shots and excellent artwork. Just needs a little more in the way of rules, which I hope is coming.
9.313/10
11 years ago
I'm still getting to learn X-Men. I like it, but I like it less and less the more I play it. Not a good sign.

The Pros:
A great PF borrowed and flipped from Tron with a few extra shots at the top of the PF. This game has flow! Magneto MB start with the balls spinning in the middle of the table is way sweet.

The Cons:
This one is on me. I still don't know how to really make this game sing. The Wolvie magnet is not my favorite placement of a magnet on a PF. Standard issue hit the (whatever) shot x times over to complete mode is... uninspired. The Iceman ramp/diverter missing on this game is a hinderance to the game and I have had more than a few balls placed directly between the flippers when the ramp crosses the PF. Super weak LE feature.

The Takeaway:
I'm still willing to give this game the time it needs to get updated and play the way it should. Between the LE's and the standard edition, I am beginning to think that the standard version is superior (transformers syndrome) to the more expensive LE variant of this deck. We will see what Stern and Lonnie Ropp have in store for us with updated code this title... but I am losing faith with this title.

Update:
FAITH RESTORED! There are two big reasons for this. One, a friend of mine got a Magneto in primo shape and it is a joy to play. Two, I have a much better idea of what to do after reading the rulesheet and getting to know this game better. Wow! I may have never been so happy to be so absolutely wrong about a pinball game. This game just made the want list! That and a Ripleys...

Scores updated accordingly. More updates to come!

Update v.2:
Now, when I go to my friend's home to hang and play pinball, I spend an inordinate amount of time on this deck. The shots are tight, the rules are deep and the flow of the game is spot on! The strange thing is that the features of the LE are some of my favorite and some of my most vilified toys on a pinball game. I love the Nightcrawler "troll" targets and the spinning magnetic multiball start.But that damn Iceman ramp that feeds the ball SDTM (with no ball save) is one of the worst features ever put into a pinball deck. Playability goes to the pro on this feature alone. I don't care for the translite on the Pro. It's too damn busy for my tastes. For some reason, the voice acting on this game is serviceable, but not more than that. And that is a shame, because the comic book is all about the characters. I don't like adding mods to make the game play as it should, but the Wolvie messenger ball makes visibility and the shot less of a bash toy and more of a skillfully aimed shot. You still have a random reflection from the shot, but it is not the sucker shot it was before. Get it already. The rules on this table are incredible, complex and very well done. Combos, stacking modes, functions and multiballs... Hooo-eee! This game is very deep and challenging. The DeadPool rules make a huge difference in how you select and complete modes. X-Men joins games programmed by Lyman Sheats and Keith Johnson in terms of complexity, needed knowledge of the ruleset and skillful play as far as what the player needs to do to reach and complete the wizard modes in this design. This game has just made the "want" list. I grew up with the comic book and with all the work that Stern and Co. has put into this game... It's a true player for me!

The best rulesheet that I have found for this game (S/w ver 1.51) can be accessed here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RXQg7NEYahyzLrrT-E3WXAmhKNtT-eVfqc5GEWZdHL0/edit#heading=h.gca79vh2ek4

Update v.3:
The voice actor for Magneto sounds like Thurston Howell the 3rd

Update v.4:
I am coming to the belief that this is the least known of Stern's "underrated" games. When this game came out, it didn't make much money. The code was horrible and the theme didn't have a movie tie in to get people to want the game the same way they wanted I-ron Meng. The good news is, this game is a true player and a real shooter. The rules are good AND deep. Two wizard modes. I have never gotten both of them in a single game play. When you get into the rules, there are certain strategies that become apparent. However, there isn't a "thing" that makes or breaks this ruleset. Multiple goals can be sought after simultaneously. Some of the shots on this game are HARD (rogue). Some of these shots are EASY (iceman) and the rules accommodate for them. A few of the modes have secondary shots and features to help with assisting completion. The more I play this game, the more I find out and appreciate what has gone into this underappreciated design. There are a few things that I still don't really understand. Why are the flippers so far to the left? How does one rely on Deadpool? Why are the quotes on this game so overblown? I have had Storm, Phoenix and Cyclops talk through an entire bonus count. Yeesh...

The good news is that this game plays so much better than most pinheads will ever appreciate. I am so glad I got mine. Overpaid for it, and I just don't care. This game is a true player and if you get the chance... play the heck out of it! I still prefer the pro to the LE.
10.000/10
11 years ago
Wow, thats a clear 10/10!
Many game modes, fantastic lightning and many toys and magnet tricks. Challenging and deep Rules, and the Magneto Edition is a real eyecatcher with its red rails and cool Cabinet Decals and Playfield (yes, NOT cheap and pixel-Cabinet/Playfield art, like LOTR for example!)
8.484/10
11 years ago
WOW! What a game. I had a 'launch party' with the Magneto LE version last night and every one loved the game. The lighting is the best I have ever seen on a pinball.
The game is perfectly balanced between giving you good ball time, but punishing enough to keep you coming back for more.
I am so glad I got the LE, its amazing and packed with features.
8.016/10
11 years ago
I like this game, changed my original rating after playing the Magneto LE version. I might have to add this to my collection. Good solid game.
6.302/10
11 years ago
Decent game in need of a serious software update.
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