What would you pay for a collectors quality Medieval Madness

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    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I would like to know what the pinheads on pinside would be willing to pay for a CQ MM. Be honest and lets see how the prices compare to the prices on Ebay.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I dunno. I know they go for $10-$14k based on condition. Even more from a high-end restorer.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Well, there are multiple facets here. What is collector quality? Factory new? Better than new restoration with mods. New in sealed box?

    Personally, for a very nice, all original lightly routed or home use machine, i would pay 8500.

    A heavily routed one that was 80 to 100% functional, 6000.

    I know these go for 10k, but thats just too much.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Anim8ormatt said:

    Well, there are multiple facets here. What is collector quality? Factory new? Better than new restoration with mods. New in sealed box?

    I am talking about a machine that is 100% playable with no playfield damage. The cabinet can have small scratches. A machine that you would be proud to have in your collection. New in the box is out of the question. Who in there right mind would open it.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Kaston,

    4k may sound familiar.... but seriously and with respect to a good game -

    I do kick myself for passing up this trade about two years back - my SM + 1500 for one (seriously). Around the same time, i passed on another one for 7k.

    Although it may be a great game, i am not a fan of the fan type layouts, and not sure i can ever pay for one over 7k. I would be too worried that the day i buy it is the top, it would nag at me too much. There are also other Pins i would want before it, so i am not the best guy to ask either....


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    kaston1573 said:

    I am talking about a machine that is 100% playable with no playfield damage. The cabinet can have small scratches. A machine that you would be proud to have in your collection.

    I would personally be willing to pay about $8,500 for such a machine, but I think it would fetch quite a bit more than that on the open market.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Well, seeing that I'm selling one...$14,000 is a fair price.

    Ok, seriously. Condition is everything. MM is a rare and highly collectable machine that some think is the best machine ever made. That is what drives the price up. Supply and demand.

    The average price over the last year based on Pinpedia.com is $10,291


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    How much is yours up to, wes? Did they hit the reserve yet?


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    wesperron said:

    Ok, seriously. Condition is everything. MM is a rare and highly collectable machine that some think is the best machine ever made. That is what drives the price up. Supply and demand

    You are right. It is a supply and demand situation. I wonder how many are still in existance.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    wesperron said:

    Well, seeing that I'm selling one...$14,000 is a fair price.

    Wes, wish you the best for 14,000 for yours. I kick my self because I had the opportunity to buy a MM for 1,200 locally back in 1999 that was heavilly used. Who knew!


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    gweempose said:

    How much is yours up to, wes? Did they hit the reserve yet?

    Not yet but I think it will. It's up to 8000 with 69 viewers.
    I'm home from my vacation for a few days as work calls so I played a few games tonight. It's the first pin I will sell that I will miss...but thats the nature of the pin game....I'm loving the polaris RZR it's a lot of fun. I'm going back later this week to drive it through some mud. When I'm doing that I don't miss it so much.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I want a MM so bad. I would say about $8k for a decent one and $10k for extremely good condition. Those seem to be about the average price.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    HUO or CQ $10k


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I would want 11K for mine and its light routed! But in very very good condtion.But thats in Australia where pinball prices are a lot higher than the US.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Hmm personally MM isn't near the top of my ratings so its maybe worth $2,000-$2,500 to me. Having said that it would be stupid for me not to buy one at double the price. If I did it would be only so that I could sell it and make a profit.
    Note: I like the game it's just that I like others more.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I have recently bought a MM here in the UK for just over $8,900 (£5,800). It's in mint condition, with just a few small scratches/marks on the cabinet, and a very small amount of wear at the Merlin saucer, otherwise it's perfect. It had a couple of years use in an arcade, then has been home use for the last 10 years.

    Not got it home yet, but I have had a good look round it. A lot of money to pay for a machine I know, but MM is a great game, and I've aspired to get one for a while.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I have had offer of $12500 for mine . It is a HUO with about 600 plays. No play field wear,it is mint.I would have a hard time ever letting it go.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Hey all,

    I'll preface this by saying that no, I don't have $10,000 or thereabouts to drop on a machine, so I personally have no skin in the game. I really do enjoy MM; from what I've played of it, it's a great game. Good modes, good art, good toys.

    I would personally probably be willing to pay $7,000 for one if it came along and I had the money burning a hole in my pocket. Before everyone says, "Guy's out to lunch; they'll never sell that low," hear me out. There is a way that I came up with that number, and it's not just me undercutting the asking value or saying "what it should be".

    I think MM is that good of a game; complete package and everything. I'd be more comfortable spending $7,000 on a MM than a new Transformers LE or Wizard of Oz that I'd never played before. With that said, above and beyond a certain point seems to me to be a cachet thing. That's 100 percent fine; I know within the pin community, if I walk into someone's basement and see a MM, a certain bit of respectful head-nodding will go on, and I have no problem with that.

    My personal issue, and how I came up with the price, is that I don't think I'm going to get as much enjoyment out of a $10,000 MM as a showpiece as I would any other three A- or B-list pins that provide me with an entire, solid collection. For that kind of money, I'm pretty sure I could get my choice of a TSPP, TZ, AFM, SM, whatever; any three or four games, and if I shopped right, maybe have enough left over for some oddball piece I want like a Gorgar. For $7,000, I can comfortably say, "Yeah, I'd drop that money for the showpiece, knowing full well it's nearly twice what any other machine is going for", without saying, "Yeah, that's too much money." Above that point, I can start drawing a hard line where I say, "I really like MM, but am comfortable having three A-list games instead of THE A-list game." Just my two cents; take it for what it's worth.

    Luke


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I'd pay $5,500, because thats what I think its worth, although the market says different, its not 3 times better then AFM or other A listers so I dont think the price should be 3x more


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I wouldn't pay more than 6k. CQ or not


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    $10-14k. Routed ones are selling between $6.5-8k. Full restoration DYI costs(new PF, boards, plastics, cabinet decals, etc, etc) can be north of $4k. Treasure Cove gets between $15-17k.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    5,500 & not a penny more I would rather buy a new L.E Transformers!


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    fusion301 said:

    I'd pay $5,500, because thats what I think its worth, although the market says different, its not 3 times better then AFM or other A listers so I dont think the price should be 3x more

    I completely agree with you.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Routed beaters get 7k all day ! I would assume that QC in very nice original shape would bring 10K but take a few weeks to sell.

    Jim


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    kmoore88 said:

    Treasure Cove gets between $15-17k.

    I guess there's a sucker born every minute, You could build an amazing game ROOM for 17k.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Anim8ormatt said:

    I guess there's a sucker born every minute, You could build an amazing game ROOM for 17k.

    True. But I'm guessing that anyone who can afford to spend $17,000 on a single pinball machine isn't too concerned about money. I don't think there are a lot of people out there buying HEP and TC restorations in lieu of feeding their families.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    $10 000 (in EXCELLENT condition). Since my friend bought one, i'm not still a fan of this machine. I played a lot and find this pin not a challenge. The ball time are too long.

    I prefer TOTAN, CV or TOM


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Anim8ormatt said:

    You could build an amazing game ROOM for 17k

    That is pretty close to what I have tied up in my game room.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Holy_Pickle said:

    $10 000 (in EXCELLENT condition). Since my friend bought one, i'm not still a fan of this machine. I played a lot and find this pin not a challenge. The ball time are too long.

    I prefer TOTAN, CV or TOM

    Huh? I can understand if you're a really good player and that MM is too easy for you, but then to name three of the easiest WPC games you like better doesn't make much sense (since MM is definitely harder than any of those).


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Anim8ormatt said:

    kmoore88 said:

    Treasure Cove gets between $15-17k.
    I guess there's a sucker born every minute, You could build an amazing game ROOM for 17k.

    Yup, you could build a super amazing game room for $50k, or an awesome one for $75K, or a wow, over the top one for $XXXk. It's all relative. One man's lobster is another man's pizza.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I have wanted one longer than I can remember. Started saving for it numerous times only to purchase another machine before I had enough saved up. I even tried the bumpy road down under to Waynes World and luckily came back unscathed. Still, no MM. If you asked me today to give up several A-listers in order to have it I would say no. Multiple pins are waay too much fun! I shouldnt actually state what I would be willing to pay for one in CQ condition because I am a little warped when it comes to MM. I will own it. Oh yes, I will own you MM


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    A-list for sure, and deserves to command a high price point, but a high price point to me would be 4-5 grand. As long as other top-tier pins can be had for that, it seems absurd to me that MM goes for so much more, it's not any better than AFM, TAF, TOTAN, or MB. But you're asking ME, the market clearly shows that I am in the minority.

    This might be blasphemous to say, but I am surrounded by about 16 MM's on location around me and now when I go into a new bar or shop and I see another MM I get disappointed, I can hardly play it anymore; the ruleset is too repetitive and boring. I'll play BoP all night without a single game on the MM sitting next to it at my favorite bar.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I was thinking more in the line of 7000. I would buy a NIB machine before I would pay more for a used (over rated)pin


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Here is how I would price a collector quality pin.

    Beater price + Price to have it restored to collector quality - 20% = Price.

    The minus 20% is the cost of not just sending it to a restorer yourself, so it has to be lower because it has been played since restoration. Kind of like driving a car off of a lot depreciation.

    Beater Price $7000 - $7500 (estimate) + Restoration Cost $6000 (labor/parts/shipping etc... depending on restorer and what you have done to it) - $2600 (20% of 13,000) = $10,400 to $11,,000 on a conservative low end.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I'd pay $6K tops. Anything beyond that and I'd rather just buy a new pin instead. MM is a great pin, but it isn't the best and certainly not worth 2 or 3 other "A" list pins. Not by a long shot.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    not knockin the game...but seriously?? i'd rather buy 3 NIB machines at that price (14g).

    i could get my;
    IM
    SM
    Transformers..

    that sounds better than having 1 castle. lol


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    emo said:

    Hmm personally MM isn't near the top of my ratings so its maybe worth $2,000-$2,500 to me. Having said that it would be stupid for me not to buy one at double the price. If I did it would be only so that I could sell it and make a profit.
    Note: I like the game it's just that I like others more.

    I agree, it is not worth that to me. i only have $5800 in my current collection. I did order a WOZ but it was all I could do.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Thanks everyone for your input on this topic.

    I have found a MM and will be going to pick it up tomorrow. I can hardly wait to add it to my collection.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    kaston1573 said:

    I have found a MM and will be going to pick it up tomorrow. I can hardly wait to add it to my collection.

    Make sure you post pics when you get her home!


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Nice....I'm picking mine up tommorrow. Get a good deal on it?


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I haven't read the thread yet and I know this doesn't answer the proposed question but my answer is no where near what anyone would charge for it.

    And congrats to you on your purchase!


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Congrats to both of you. I get giddy just thinking about mm so Im excited for you guys. I feel like a little kid asking....can I play too?


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    RawleyD said:

    I wouldn't pay more than 6k. CQ or not

    I like MM a lot,But to me I would not pay more than $6000 for a 14 year old pin no matter the condition.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Congrates guy on MM, pictures please !!

    I'll pay 6000-7500$. I really want to get one, but none came a cross with good price yet


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    If you are a true pinball collector and you don't have MM,your collection is incomplete.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    brz said:

    If you are a true pinball collector and you don't have MM,your collection is incomplete.

    I guess I am just a hobbyest.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    I found a MM here in a bar maybe 10 mins drive from my house. The Cabinet looked ok, there was some wear around the Merlin Hole, both flippers needed a rebuild, one of the trolls was not working and the right ramp diverter was not working either. Such a great shame to see a high value pin in such bad condition,and to be in a tiny bar where it doesn't get to be enjoyed by many people. Knowing if the bar owned it ,or if it was on route would differ my offer.

    $4000-$5000 bar owned
    $5500-$6500 private owned.


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    brz said:

    If you are a true pinball collector and you don't have MM,your collection is incomplete.

    That comment does not hold any value ! Some think that you are a true collector if you have very rare pins and most would be HUO .

    I think anyone with a pinball machine is a collector ! Quality may very a lot !

    Jim


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    absocountry2 said:

    Make sure you post pics when you get her home!

    Thanks Absocountry2 I will do that!


    2 years, 6 months ago
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    Silverballer said:

    Congrats to both of you. I get giddy just thinking about mm so Im excited for you guys. I feel like a little kid asking....can I play too?

    Thanks Silverballer. If you are ever in Texas I will be glad for you to stop by and give it a play.



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