Take AC/DC LE for example, 20% of the rankings think it is the perfect pin and this is an obvious upward bias IMHO. I am not saying their opinion is wrong but saying that since 20% of the votes are what actually put it at number 1 this week, 4 rankers had an ability to alter the top 100 this week, put a target on the back of AC/DC LE, and hence further bias for the long term of the top 100. It will surely eventually end up with a nice average that fits a greater consensus, but the aggregate impact has forever impacted the true accuracy of the system in a negative way.
So you're saying that because 4 people gave the LE perfect 10's (whereas the other 22 raters did not) it invalidates the entire ratings system?
This is the first week that the game is on the list. Give it time. Like you say it will eventually settle in. Historically, pins always debut high and then come down.
Don't worry. MM will be back on top next week.
If I were to draw a line in the sand for a botique pin list which is seperate from the regular list, then I would say anything less than 500. An edition size of 10% of the average normal edition (5000?) seems like a reasonable cutoff. Also with the total number of pinside members I think an edition size of less than 500 reasonably precludes the majority of the population. I would agree that the BBB and CC, etc old school pins should also be removed from the regular list. I actually think an only botique pin list would be a very useful tool also.
In that case, CC should be included since 900 of them were produced. At any rate, I completely disagree with this line of thinking. Of course people will think I'm biased because I own an LE, but I don't care.
Here's my reasoning... A lot of this line of thinking seems to be based on the idea that all of these games go into collectors' homes and they are played by a select few people. In some cases this may be true, but I think it is largely a false assumption.
As an example, I have a Tron:LE. I am one person who owns it. Of course I could have made the choice to never let anyone else play it. Instead I would estimate 20-25 people who don't own it have had the chance to play my one example over the last 9 months. I'm sure my case is not the exception, but rather the rule.
Case in point... Earlier this year I went on the Ball Crawl in the Twin Cities and got to visit 3 different collectors' homes and collections. That's where I got to play TF:LE along with a number of other non-LE pins I had never had the chance to play before. There were a TON of people at each stop along the way. Heck, I even got to play Flipper Football at Bryan Kelly's place. Never thought I'd have the chance to play one of those, but it happened.
The point is that, from what I can tell and a number of threads on Pinside seem to support, location pinball is dying. There has been a big shift over the last few years and now it seems that the home is where the majority of pinball is being played. There are pockets like Portland, OR where location pinball thrives, but these cases are sadly the exception rather than the norm.
These days if you want to play pinball you have to network. Sad but true. If I hadn't networked with people I would have only played a handful of machines by this point. Instead I've been fortunate enough to play the majority of pins I want to play. I'd rather go to any of my friend's houses to play pinball than go to any location in Madison to play. Why? Because my friends have better collections than any location does!
Plus, most of the people who come to this site are pinheads who know other pinheads. Odds are in most cases they'll have a chance to play the majority of the pins they want to. I don't think there are many casual players strolling on to Pinside every day.
IMO excluding machines because they are by and large going into home use environments doesn't compute. Heck, the only MM I've ever seen on location is at SS Billiards in the Twin Cities but I've played 4 or 5 of them in various collectors' homes. Better yet, I've only ever played MB in collectors' homes. Should that one be excluded from the list as well?
It all seems very arbitrary to me. The game has changed. This is the state of pinball today. Time takes care of everything. Including these ratings.