Some of the threads in the Pinside Hall of Fame wouldn't be there without price policing:

1. Signed DE Star Wars thread
2. Iron Man Classic price check thread

Price police me all you want. The only reason why anyone would be upset by price policing is that if their pricing is too high and they are hoping that some sucker will bite. Those bottom feeders need to be kept in check. Price policing also provide a counter to the price cheerleaders.

It's fine.

It makes no sense to Price Police... the best way to show a seller he is too high is silence.

Everyone else is just a whiner...

Everyone should just stop worrying about it, the last thing we need is mods patrolling threads trying to decide if a comment is "price policing". If you don't want comments on your sale just put it in the marketplace and move on with your life.

That's the most over used BS on Pinside... "put it in the Marketplace Ads and no will will comment" LOL! Funny...

Sure, there are certain guys who Price Police but all they really do is whine... jealous? miserable? prostate problems? Who knows but they are nothing but whiners....

gonna start a "price pumping" poll too?

< nods head "yes" >

Everyone selling wants what they need. Those buying want to pay as little as possible. Price police
express opinions regardless of whether they are interested or not. If you are not interested in a sellers post , silence may be a better , rather that complaining. All of us sell from time to time.

i think you'd see a lot of the "price policing" go away (actually, it seems to have declined lately) if those who express opinions to "protect" the value of the machines they own were silent as well...

the sword cuts both ways...

Totally right about Market Place. I will never put a game for sale in this sub forum. Not because I want to screw someone over, but because there is always some ass clown that will throw in some drunken two sense about a machine they have no intention ever buying being overpriced just to make themselves feel better about their small flipper.
At least that is my 2 cents

Plus I am pissed the Bears lost

I may be alone on this but price policing has saved my a$$ from buying an over priced pin a few times now in my newb status.

And they looked awful doing it. What happened to Cutler?

I would not hesitate to post a FS here, as I think most Pinsiders know to filter the posts that are at either extreme. The silent majority out there are a pretty reasonable bunch.

No shortage of D bags who list games far too high & then act like victims

If I put up a BTTF for $9000 I deserve a verbal kick in the nuts

Don't want comments in the FS thread then don't open one

That's my take on it but I accept the fact others will disagree

Absolutely! Also, those comments help the rest of us develop opinions on what a pin SHOULD cost. Comments are useful, up until they become personal attacks. (Not accusing you PW79)

Teekee will disagree with me on this one, but yes, if you open a discussion thread with a pin fs, expect, well, discussion. No two people are exactly the same.

Now when things get out of hand here, unlike RGP, the mod squad may handle things.

Free speech for the human race can sometimes be overrated. .

Problem is too many of the whiners DON'T KNOW what a pin should cost!

Many of these Price whiners suffer from a lack of knowledge. They really don't know what they really don't know! I love it when someone is selling a HEP restored or a low play HUO title and the price whiners come a whining. They really have no clue about the high end/collector market yet they will whine and derail a perfectly good FS Post.

Silence is best when it comes to FS Posts. Too many battles started in these threads and a lot of bad blood developed here...

Who would comment on a market ad anyway? Its not like someone is asking over 10k for something vanilla like say ACDC

Unquestionably, I am a newb, but I happen to think if someone opts to post in the forum section rather than the market place, it goes with the territory that comments will follow. As long as posters refrain from personal attacks, I happen to think its all part of the game.
I happen to think most people have the best of intentions at heart.

Are there going to be kerfuffles? Of course. Its called living in the land of the free. Having the right to openly post in a forum means one also has the right to make errors. Its difficult to legislate against stupidity.

So far, it looks like people think price policing is either good or doesn't matter to them. I think folks have their own general idea of what a good price is and, in the end, it doesnt really matter what a seller has their game priced at. If someone REALLY wants it, seller and buyer eventually meet no matter what someone 2 thousand miles away protests. We've seen a number of sellers lately get angry/confused/frustrated when their games don't sell and they especially get set up for comments.

^^^

actually, very few "high end restores" done by the usual suspects get policed... it is very rare to see any policing of a hep restored machine, for example...

"huo" means nothing, it is simply a marketing term (i especially like the "huo since xxx date" ads )... "condition" is what matters, regardless of whether it has lived in a home or on mars... "huo" is not a "condition"...

there are some with vested interests who would like to see policing go away, and blaming it on "noobs" is, ummm, convenient...

I think sharing selling prices of recent similar sales if you have had that experience is a great idea. But just to bash some one for asking too much for a machine isn't doing anyone any good.

So for example this Spring I sold two Pin-Bot machines in the North East. I got $1250 & $1400 for those two machines. So if I saw a post where someone listed a nice Pin-Bot for say $900 I would post "seems like a great deal for someone" but if I saw a post with a Pin-Bot listed for say $2000 I might reply "seems $500 to $700 to high from my experience selling Pin-Bots this Spring".

But just bashing someone over an asking price doesn't do anyone any good in my opinion.

I certainly disagree. Most of the time when there is a really nicely restored machine posted for sale, people chime in with their compliments. On the other hand if you do shotty work, or even worse, buy a pin and do no work and then try to flip it for a silly price it's nice to see them get bashed.

y'know, if everyone was like you and shared what they actually sold a machine for, that would help a lot...

but that's a rare thing... most keep actual selling prices VERY close to the vest...

the main problem is, there are too many who would post "$2k for that pinbot is a STEAL", since they have a vested interest in making it appear as if that is either the going rate/a bargain...

We're here for you, by you. Price Police RULE.

Even though it'll come out the same probably, start a poll/thread aboot price pumpers.

Trash that they are

All this vested interest crap goes both ways... some that price whine have their own vested interest why they do it. And its not because they want to educate a noob...

Where exactly does it say in the community rules that you can't comment on an ad in the marketplace here in the forum?

fair enough comment... i will agree that there are those who have declared a vendetta against certain sellers...

It doesn't.

What a pin "should" cost, eh? If someone comments about what they deem as an outlandish price, there is nothing stopping you from coming back and defending your position. If your pin is priced right and it sells, you win! Otherwise, it was just another overpriced pin begging for some poor sap to overspend for it.

And usually those vendettas are brought about by said seller's own cocky and/or self-righteous behavior. Ooops, guess they shouldn't have been an a-hole.

It's dialog, and most dialog is good. If the criticism is unfair, someone will usually jump in and "correct" the criticism. I use grammar and spelling to decide whether to pay attention to the comments or not.

I think this is spot on. Whether they have a vested interest, or they are just noobs. I also find it hilarious how unless the machine looks like it fell of a truck, people are all too happy to comment "SUPER CLEAN! SOooooooOOOsoooOOO Nice! Minty! CHerry!" And the like when most of the games are simply average to above average examples. Sometimes I wonder whether or not people even look at the pictures.

Ohhh, believe me, I will!

I am a noob and I like the price police. They helped me from getting ripped off a few times.

minty fresh...

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Yeah, you told us already... if you have examples please share!

That's where I have an issue. I don't particularly care for price policing, but there is tons of price pumping that goes on in this forum.

People saying HUO TSPPs are getting harder to find (they aren't). $5700 for an IM is a great price (it isn't. it may be market price, but it isn't a great price). Or that TOM is a title on the rise (it isn't, and I own one). And that's just from this weekend.

Most of the time, this stuff goes unchecked. I don't like to turn FS threads into shit shows, so I don't call it out. It's not really fair to the seller, who isn't usually involved. But it's BS.

Edit: Also, if you say something is a "great price" and it's still sitting there a week later, you should lose all of your FS thread commenting privileges. This is pinside. If something is truly listed at a "great price", it is gone quick.

< nods head yes VERY vigorously >

The classiest move is not to comment on the price directly--unless it's a smokin' deal, or a fair deal--because the crickets and time will themselves facilitate a price reduction if priced inappropriately.

If however, the condition description is obviously overzealous, and obvious material disclosures have been overlooked intentionally or not--then it is completely appropriate to point these oversights out/pass on game-knowledge, both for the benefit of Newbie buyers, and also for those who are simply not familiar with the title.

My 2 cents.

I don't know about that. Herbs REALLY nice HUO LOTR was an amazing price and sat there for awhile until he dropped it under 5k.

The market determines whether something is an amazing price or not. When a game sits there and has consistent price drops, it's not an amazing price. There are plenty of people on this forum who will scoop up a pin simply because it is priced below what they believe is market, and even that didn't happen.

Typically when people say something is a "great price', one of three things is happening. Either they don't understand the current market prices, or they have an incentive to say it is a "great price". And then there is the third, less common reason. The game is actually priced well, and they are right.

when "the market" decided it reached an "amazing price" (translated: a price it would sell at), it went pretty quickly...

sammie's post that precedes this one explains that, and the last paragraph explains why it didn't sell earlier, despite many comments about how great a price it was previous to it reaching the price it eventually sold at... many people "couldn't believe" it wasn't selling (i believe you were one of them), but not one of them bought it at the "amazing price" it was originally offered at...

machines priced "amazingly" sell "amazingly fast"... there are people who make a living by buying machines at "amazing prices" and then selling them at market value...

all of that puts aside the fact that VERY few machines are offered for sale at "amazing prices" (well... amazingly low, anyway) on pinside... most machines are offered for sale at "i sure i hope i get this" prices*...

* super high end machines/high end restores not included... those have a completely different pricing paradigm...

It didn't sell for $10k... no one on Pinside is that naive about the current market. We've seen them change hands here from $7900-$8300 recently. No one paid $10k... who really knows what happened here... if anything at all.

Found this on someone's forum posts about WOZ for sale. Price policing? Guilty dog barks the loudest.

Prices are meant to be questioned and everyone is after a better deal, in the end it is up to the seller and buyer to determine the price........you never sell until you want to its up to what you feel comfortable with. People always have different opinions of what they will pay if you don't like the price don't pay it

I guess this is where living in a different country comes into play (and I guess I fit into the category about not understanding current market value). Up here 5k is a steal for a LOTR in that condition, they go for upwards of 6k up here in that shape. And yes I was one of the ones that commented on his thread about how good the price was and no I didn't buy it for one reason only.......customs. If I didn't have to pay the dollar conversion and 13% tax at the border I would have bought it for sure. You guys are lucky your prices are so good down there.