Looking to pick up my first pin to offically start my pinball addiction.
I actually live in Tucson but we don't hardly ever get good listings down here...I live in a pinball desert...literally.
Thanks for the help.
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Given the fact that the DMD is messed up, I think it's priced a bit too high. Are those small DMD's even available anymore? It also makes me a little nervous that the seller describes the playfield as being in "fair" condition. I think $600-650 is probably a fair offer if everything else is working.
oooh I want one.
"The game had the first dot matrix display (DMD) ever used on a pinball game! It used a "half-height" DMD as compared to the standard DMD used by Williams Mfg."
It looks like PINLED makes a replacement display, but it's darn expensive:
Pinballlife shows $130.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback guys.....oh how I wish I still lived in Chicago and had a better selection!
On average this is a $750 to $800 game. If it looks nice, no wear, no error codes, etc...
Sorry, did not look at the pics you have. That is a very nice playfield. I would get it in one second..
Pinballlife shows $130.
That's a lot more reasonable.
I saw this ad that was posted Oct 21st in Phoenix on CL. The guy was asking $699 REDUCED. The ad said that there were problems with the DMD in the top right corner as well. I wonder if it's the same machine and the guy from Gilbert is just trying to make a quick buck. Who knows...
It is his first pin guys, having him buy a game that has issues IS A BAD IDEA.
The display glass is available from pinball life cheap (for a small display), but you still have to desolder 128+16 pins and then solder the new one in without damaging any traces. It is not a job for the faint of heart and you very well could screw it up.
That would be helpful to someone knowing what they were doing if that were the problem. That display isn't outgassing. The board it is connected to has problems which isn't uncommon for small dmds.
The game runs 900 tops and working ones in the chicago area will sit for 700-800 on cl for weeks. It is a neat game, but like all early DE dmd's (TMNT, Hook, ST25, Batman) it is stupidly simple. It would be nice in a larger lineup but as a first pin he will likely get board quickly.
Also, if anything goes wrong with it and he has to pay for a repair he will quickly end up with alot more money in it than it is worth. I would suggest avoding it unless it was cheap (as in the 500 dollar range cheap) until you know how to repair a machine. Once you work your way up and are comfortable fixing things and have a few other machines it could make for a nice change of pace.
I still say get it, especially if you're in a pinball-drought laden area of the country.
From the pictures it looks to be in good shape other than the one corner of the DMD. The first game I bought didn't have any problems and I had another one in the door that I had to rebuild from the ground up in about 2 weeks because I got bored with the first. You gotta start somewhere.
Should someone buy a pin that doesn't even turn on as their very first? Probably not, but that's not this machine.