Now you are talking. I would like to see theKorn comparison...maybe pzy could ship to him? I assume theKorn is volunteering? I'll pay for shipping for the comparison if y'all are tired of it.

that is a MUCH better price point!

I agree. Since the tests would seem to indicate that it is indeed better than normal glass, the cost seems pretty fair.

rommy I do appreciate the offer of paying for the shipping if that is something that all involved would want to arrange. I will not forget your help.

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As others have stated, if you want to know what PDI glass will look like on your machine, remove your playfield glass. That's what it looks like (no joke). But be warned, just like buying machines, buying PDI glass becomes addictive.

Sure, $300 a sheet ain't cheap, but if you're dropping $4K+ on a decent title, wouldn't you want to spend a little extra on the part of the game you're look at/through 100% of the time?

In my opinion the PDI glass looks better than comparing it to a removed glass. I'm not kidding when I say the PDI glass has a way of enhancing the colors and artwork, making the entire playfield pop.

I understand the price concerns but many of us can justify the cost. I see people spend a lot of money on LED's, toys and trinkets to gussy up their games. The PDI glass in my opinion is one of the greatest mods available.

I use the standard glass and most of mine are pretty chipped and or scratched. I honestly never notice it. I am sure i would notice it in retrospect if i replaced it.

It would cost $2520 to outfit all my machines with PDI. I think i will just buy a collector quality "The Shadow" instead!

This is even more important now that we know the $295 cost on invisiglass. Let's get the invisiglass and the phoog glass to theKorn...or if Korn ends up not having time, let's get invisiglass to pzy and mutter.

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He does some very good comparative tests. Although, I'd like to see the test wait for a couple months and add JJP's glass to the gauntlet.

I cannot believe how quiet this thread has become? Did anyone do any comparisons yet?

PDI, JJP or Bob's........ any comparisons on all 3 yet?

It seems PDI & JJPI is about the same. Bob's is just really good glass.

Got a sheet a regular glass from "Phoog" (Bob) and he is a real nice guy to deal with. I met him half-way at a gas station to pick up my glass. Standard sheet was $37 even. So since I was local no shipping. On his glass truck he did show me the "ultimate" glass, although not installed on a pin, I could clearly see a difference in the 2 (standard and the "ultimate" glass). Local regular glass shops around town wanted $55+ for a regular sheet of tempered.

Is it just me, or am I the only one who likes to see then reflection of the backglass on the table glass?

It's just you....

Although I think many have blown the proportion of importance of glare reducing glass clear out of the water I can see why it would be nice to have.

Thanks Jeff. Actually, the piece of glass Jeff saw on my truck was a piece of "Super-clear Standard Glass". That is the less expensive version of "Bob's Ultimate" It does not have beveled edges and is 3/16 thick like PDI glass and standard glass. I am selling these for $85 each plus packaging and shipping. This is glass that is made without the green color to allow a clearer view of your playfield and most importantly allows increased light transmission to enhance your LEDs and playfield colors! Check out pinballglass.com for more details and for ordering information.

Rise from the grave!!!

Whatever happened to Bobs glass?

Wow! That's quite a thread resurrection! Phoog hasn't even posted on Pinside for more than five years.

What happened? Any idea?

Bob's still my glass guy (I'm local) and I have purchased many pieces from him including a beveled edge glass top for my executive desk. With a order large enough to place with the glass manufacturer, I'm assume that he could still do it but I'm not so sure he'd want to mess with shipping or anything. He's a busy guy and his glass company takes a lot of his time. I would speculate Pinball just isn't that much volume to cause it to take away or compete with what puts food on his family's plate.

If anyone is really that interested I can text him and ask him.

Thanks. How does his glass compare to PDI, IVGlass, vodoo etc?

That question I am not qualified to answer unfortunately. All my pins have PDI as I either bought the pin with it already or bought separate sheets from a local collector who had ordered too many. I can say that I prefer PDI to invisiglass.

It doesn’t compare. The PDI glass and other glasses that have the actual anti-reflective coating (it is a special coating) are head over heels more transparent than glass that doesn’t have the coating. This is no diss against Phoog, by any means, there is simply an anti glare technology the more expensive glass uses that his glass did not utilize.

I have 3 of Phoog's beveled sheets in my games. It is nowhere near pdi but it is high quality and thicker than normal glass so it deadens some of the sound coming through it. I would love to buy 3-4 more sheets to finish off my collection. Pdi is great no doubt though.