BVM said:

chocky909 said:I'm not a troll. I'm lovely!
Agreed.

Ah come on man, you're not helping my case... ; )

absocountry2 said:

BVM said:No one has called nor turned up
Most here are in the US. There have been many gatherings/BASH of Pinsiders stateside. You and Chocky can get together there. He just got his first pin in his hands. I am surprised he did not get with you to help find a pin. You are not that far apart there.

See?

Seriously enough of the accusations of trolling. I've done nothing of the sort whereas there's been plenty of safety in numbers bullying posts.

How did you possibly read an accusation into that?? He was pointing out that you two live close to one another. Simmer down.

hmmmmm.......? tin man

Close this thread already.

absocountry2 said:

BVM said:

No one has called nor turned up

Most here are in the US. There have been many gatherings/BASH of Pinsiders stateside. You and Chocky can get together there. He just got his first pin in his hands. I am surprised he did not get with you to help find a pin. You are not that far apart there.

The following a PM I received from BVM:
Your broken poor English is unreadable..

It was like reading something wrote by a child with learning difficulties..

..For the record, I was referencing to residents in England.

Doh!

End PM:
All I was saying is that they are close to each other and should get together. I spent over 9 years inthe UK and I am familar with distances there. Chocky just posted he finally got his first pin and they should get together. Chocky is new and BVM has a store and a lot of knowledge to share. What is so worng with that. No hidden message.

I added the PM from BVM to show what I feel is a personal attack.

In before the lock.

gambit3113 said:

How did you possibly read an accusation into that?? He was pointing out that you two live close to one another. Simmer down.

Yeah yeah, just a coincidence that he's trying to label me as a troll then starts mentioning I should meet up with another so called troll and then we can have a troll party with troll cakes and troll milkshakes.

How about you calm down yourself and stop stirring with your nasty comments?

chocky909 said:

gambit3113 said:How did you possibly read an accusation into that?? He was pointing out that you two live close to one another. Simmer down.
Yeah yeah, just a coincidence that he's trying to label me as a troll then starts mentioning I should meet up with another so called troll and then we can have a troll party with troll cakes and troll milkshakes.
How about you calm down yourself and stop stirring with your nasty comments?

Siamese trolls.

no I need to keep this topic open

HELLODEADCITY said:

hmmmmm.......? tin man

What?

HELLODEADCITY said:

no I need to keep this topic open

We've established that.. but as 99% of the users on this thread are NOT admin. We are unable to close.

chocky909 said:

Yeah yeah, just a coincidence that he's trying to label me as a troll then starts mentioning I should meet up with another so called troll and then we can have a troll party with troll cakes and troll milkshakes.

Dude, you are seriously reading too much into that comment. I am not trying to be nasty. Don't take everything as an insult.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood but seeing as nearly all of your previous posts have been trying to belittle me I assumed you were trying again.

I've got plenty of UK pinball contacts already thanks. They're all trolls too btw.

OOO. Handbags at dawn?...

I see you're still making loads of new friends, BVM???......

Why dont you just give it up? We all know you could charm the t*ts off a donkey...

chocky909 said:

I'm sorry if I misunderstood but seeing as nearly all of your previous posts have been trying to belittle me I assumed you were trying again.
I've got plenty of UK pinball contacts already thanks. They're all trolls too btw.

Shame that fella. Theres still some good guys about.....*ahem*

I was trying to get back to pinball. He is near you and said nobody calls him. I am in Alaska (see location listed) and you guys in the UK are closer to the guys on the east coast than I am. Hard for me to make it.

chocky909 said:

I've got plenty of UK pinball contacts

On that note, do you know David Blake? He is a great guy. He helped me with my CP and NGG when I first go started in pinball. He is a great guy.

Russo121 said:

OOO. Handbags at dawn?...
I see you're still making loads of new friends, BVM???......
Why dont you just give it up? We all know you could charm the t*ts off a donkey...

Plenty..

As a member either mentioned in this post or another. I forget.. Most of the members are from the US. I'm not one for booking a flight to meet a single pin head. Soz.

Giving up is for quitters.

Donkey.. Talking to animals might your game, not mine. Sorry again.

Off Topic:- I'm VERY interested in your CV though. VERY

As someone who gets told they are too negative, price police, trolling, etc. even I think this thread should be locked.

Pinside isn't rgp, but at the same time there seem to be some very differing opinions on what it should be. Some people want an all positive, heavily moderated forum that is family friendly and kid safe. Others want to be able to discuss/debate/argue and let things get heated. Still others want it to be an adult playground with all the nsfw content that goes with it.

Its robin's sandbox let him decide what he wants it to be. This no trolling thread appears to have turned into a lovely round of finger pointing which isn't doing anyone any good.

Russo121 said:

OOO. Handbags at dawn?...
I see you're still making loads of new friends, BVM???......
Why dont you just give it up? We all know you could charm the t*ts off a donkey...

» YouTube video

YAWN.. By that I do not mean You'll Never Walk Alone (Liverpool FC well know phrase)

Deeeeerailed!!!!

tracelifter said:

Russo121 said:OOO. Handbags at dawn?...
I see you're still making loads of new friends, BVM???......
Why dont you just give it up? We all know you could charm the t*ts off a donkey...
» YouTube video

Classic.

absocountry2 said:

I was trying to get back to pinball. He is near you and said nobody calls him. I am in Alaska (see location listed) and you guys in the UK are closer to the guys on the east coast than I am. Hard for me to make it.
chocky909 said:I've got plenty of UK pinball contacts

On that note, do you know David Blake? He is a great guy. He helped me with my CP and NGG when I first go started in pinball. He is a great guy.

Doesn't ring a bell though I am new and I get confused between people's real names and the ones they use on UK Pinball groups. I've met up a few times with the London & SE leagues and also the Surrey league and I'll be going to the South Coast Slam next Sunday but there are just too many names and faces. I'll keep a listen out for the name though and mention you.

DP

I think we need an option to be able to ignore individual posters, like they have on most other moderated forums I frequent. I guess we need the ability to block PMs from individuals, too, in order to avoid harassment and abuse in private.

gambit3113 said:

I think we need an option to be able to ignore individual posters, like they have on most other moderated forums I frequent. I guess we need the ability to block PMs from individuals, too, in order to avoid harassment and abuse in private.

Agreed.

Alright Alright I am the troll and I have a siamese twin.

Come on guys opinions are opinions just be respectful and tactful as much as possible.

I have read back at a couple of my random posts and have seen some that have a high potential for misinterpretation.

I am sure most posts are meant to be a joke or some light fun or simply people trying to give there opinion. But alot of people are taking every statement as a personal attack.

Note: People are alot different in things like personality, humor and just generally speaking people skills.
I don't think even the people being called trolls most of them don't think they are.
I don't either.
I just think that alot of people are quick to draw conclusions and others are just quick to post what is on there mind and then ........ BOOM.

I am definately the one to just simply write what is on my mind.
And from time to time it makes me play damage control but such is the nature of the beast.

We can all get along without having Robin moderate us can't we?

I will start

I love pinside and all of its users opinions good or bad!

Ultimately that is the honest truth. The thing that makes forums good is diversity not seeing eye to eye with every last person you come in to contact with on the internet. We can all try to keep that in mind when reading future posts.

I agree, comments can and are taken out of context sometimes.

BVM said:

I'm off to Amsterdam in May.
I'll be with a Stag do & in & around the Coffee Shops.
People call me Reedy.

Tons of pinball to be played in Amsterdam.

Salma and a Troll!!

HELLODEADCITY said:

http://pinside.com/pinball/help/pinsidecom-community-rules
For the new members read the rules and obey
If we cant get along and give a little respect to each other then someone has got to go.
I'm looking at 5 right now to leave no questions asked....... just gone

I've only just read this so I hope that warning applies to 'old' members too. I don't know if I'm one of those 5 you refer to but I've been careful to obey those rules, be polite and show respect to everyone. Only when they have responded rudely will I reply in a similar way and even then I've held my tongue. I only wanted to express my opinion, not start an argument but you can't fairly blame me if it turns in to one.

I just want to get on here, not cause trouble and I don't want to be labelled as a troll especially as I've done nothing to deserve it. I'm sorry if I've been involved in some unpleasantness and I'm quite stubborn in arguments but I'm prepared to forget about everything if other members will do the same.

This is the best pinball forum I've found and it has some great posters and posts and I'd like to be a constructive part of it if I'm allowed.

And this week's coveted award goes to:

Why are some people trying to burn bridges so fast? Wouldn't that make it harder next time you need some tech help? or want to buy or sell something? I just hope all this negativity does not drive away people that have valuable input or can really offer something. Almost all of my tech problems have been solved by helpful pinsiders. When I was looking for a replacment plastic one time a pinsider sent me one for FREE! that is what makes this site great.

practicalsteve said:

Why are some people trying to burn bridges so fast? Wouldn't that make it harder next time you need some tech help? or want to buy or sell something? I just hope all this negativity does not drive away people that have valuable input or can really offer something. Almost all of my tech problems have been solved by helpful pinsiders. When I was looking for a replacment plastic one time a pinsider sent me one for FREE! that is what makes this site great.

Your correct Steve. I believe it all comes from being bored, mad at the wife, mad at boss/work, etc.,etc. But your right, "Dont bite the hand that feeds you!!"

Well, the good news for me is that my new TZ backglass/poster came from Bay Area Amusements and the red clock housing and mini gumball have shipped.

Just for the record, "trolling" is when we intentionally try to piss off each other with our comments.

practicalsteve said:

Why are some people trying to burn bridges so fast? Wouldn't that make it harder next time you need some tech help? or want to buy or sell something? I just hope all this negativity does not drive away people that have valuable input or can really offer something. Almost all of my tech problems have been solved by helpful pinsiders. When I was looking for a replacment plastic one time a pinsider sent me one for FREE! that is what makes this site great.

It depends on where you are in the hobby. Honestly speaking when I need help with something it is usually something really esoteric and the last few times the help I received was worthless. It isn't because people are unwilling to help. The trouble is there is some stuff that just isn't that well known. Whitestar/Sam board repair can be very difficult because of this. I would imagine Capcom, Alvin G, and spinball would fall into this category as well.

At this point anything bally/williams/DE is a simple matter of going to clays guides, or digging through rgp because you have 20 years of people needing help.

Please note I say this not because I know it all, but rather I have been doing this long enough to know where to look for answers. Most of the people coming on here for help are not asking anything that cannot be found using a google search. Alot of times they are first time owners or its one of their first big repairs. This hobby has a very steep learning curve and given a couple years they will probably be to the point I am at. Then again it really depends on if you want to spend an hour or two digging through the archives or just asking a question and hoping someone responds.

way2wyrd said:

Salma and a Troll!!

Which one is Salma???

The one with the dark hair...

Ahhhh.... the one on the left then, thanks!!

dung said:

Then again it really depends on if you want to spend an hour or two digging through the archives or just asking a question and hoping someone responds.

Installing the balls in BBB. I googled. I went through RGP. I went to old specific BBB sites. Nada, bupkis. Posted here and LT was on it within, well it was fast. I always google first, but maybe I should come here first. Another example, the cliffy on RBION. I looked at it hard but could not see a way to do it from the top. Posted questions here and got walked through it, sure enough have to at least loosen the assembly below the playfield (btw I have not finished this yet, i got distracted) . For me, and yes I am truly a newbie, coming here is faster plus you get footnotes to go with the instructions. I do get that someone asking an experienced pinhead for help with a cliffy is not only trivial but I could see you getting annoyed with the issue being repeated. There is this - I won't ever have to ask about those issues again and could pass it on someday.

Thats Diego =-)

Gambit3113 is bang on the money with this one I'm afraid.

Can someone ban BVM (Pinballparadise) already... the guy has the same broken English as before, same insulting tendencies as before, same PM'ing issues, and is a polluting almost every thread.

Every closed thread as of late has been because of him. It’s annoying seeing his crap in every thread.

Lock Warning!

NY2Colorado said:

BVM said:I'm off to Amsterdam in May.
I'll be with a Stag do & in & around the Coffee Shops.
People call me Reedy.
Tons of pinball to be played in Amsterdam.

Where?

Atomicboy said:

Every closed thread as of late has been because of him.

Wrong!

dung said:

Please note I say this not because I know it all, but rather I have been doing this long enough to know where to look for answers. Most of the people coming on here for help are not asking anything that cannot be found using a google search. Alot of times they are first time owners or its one of their first big repairs. This hobby has a very steep learning curve and given a couple years they will probably be to the point I am at. Then again it really depends on if you want to spend an hour or two digging through the archives or just asking a question and hoping someone responds.

I am asking this because I would really like to know. Based on your statement, Why are you here then?

It sounds like you do not think you need help and you tend to talk down to those who ask for it.

Is a so-called Troll the same as someone who backs up their views/corner?

Interesting.. As it seems that way.