Bought a set for my Tron, missed a good number of things I needed for the FULL set, but I got all the major stuff covered.

Do you like your games to play fast? Do you like your flipper rubbers to catch the ball almost as if they had sticky fingers? Do you want your slingshots to play like someone put a Jagov Kicker in them? Do you want to see rubber rings on a pinball machine glow?

If you answered yes to all or some of those, you're probably going to be interested in this stuff. These are some WIERD rubbers. I replaced most of the stuff I had on Tron last night. The only thing I didn't get was a few of the vertical posts and the mini-bumper-posts. I would estimate that these rings are "harder" than black rubber. If for instance (I don't know actual numbers, just making a comparison!) you say on 1-100 scale, higher is "harder", that white PBL rubber is a "40", but black Wico rubber (off a NIB stern) is a 50, then I would say this stuff is like a 57-60. There's that much difference.

It plays FAST and brutal, and it can bounce a ball from a held-up flipper out of the Tron scoop all the way up into the pop bumpers if it hits the flipper just right. The slings are so stiff and tight that I'm actually going to have to close up the gap on my switches, because the slings aren't soft enough to allow a mid-speed ball to trigger them, whereas on black rubber it would trigger almost every time they were touched! When they DO go off, it's usually a pretty violent interaction. I haven't played it enough to say for sure, but I am a *bit* concerned with it potentially causing a lot of airballs.

I shopped out Tron last night, so my disc is nice and clean, and the transparent rubber is back in the disc area, which is a LOT brighter now that it lets all that light through. This is really the strong point of these things... if you want a bright playfield that plays like a tough black rubber set without leaving all the scudge and gunk and darkness, this is for you.

My only other thought is that these rubbers are so hard and fit so tight to equivalent sized black rings, that I am moderately concerned about their durability. I did have one small ring snap when pushing it down over a post last night because the ID of the hole wasn't a good match to the equivalent size rubber, it was smaller. I put the other ones that went on post on with a pair of needlenose pliers and it was fine, but just trying to roll the thing on the post....it snapped.

Pictures incoming!

A few pics. I can post more tonight when I get home.

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One other annoying thing while it's on my mind...Pinballcenter doesn't stamp the ring size on the rings. Just "PINBALLCENTER" in fairly large lettering and their logo across from it. If you use em, make sure you put the text on the bottom side of the ring and rotate it out of view if you can.

That's not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself. IMHO, being able to adapt to different playing conditions is really critical for tourney play. Even as different as it was playing last night, and it not being level, and the disc shooting out a million miles an hour, I still had a "decent" game last night only having played 2 games... I had Flynn, Clu, Zuse, Gem, and Disc all lit solid, one shot to start Quorra, and lightcycle and extra ball lit on my third ball....then I drained.

It's the iPhone camera. I tried to use the HDR effect on there, but didn't work so great. It's definitely brighter than it was, but my biggest issue in terms of lighting on my game is actually....LED flashers. They are CRAZY bright, and the cointaker one down in the arcade/ZEN area is just way too much. During disc multiball with them all going off, and the GI going on and off every time you hit a shot, it's pretty bad if the room is dark.

Trust me, I look at most people's pictures of their fruit-loops conversions and just shake my head.. I'm not one to make things overly bright or colored with a bunch of stuff that wasn't intended. If it ends up being too bright, I'll try retros instead of frosted and use those ones somewhere else.

Yeah....excecpt I sold my Tron back in march, right after TPF? Biggest. Mistake. Ever. I guess indirectly, in a way, it might end up allowing me to get Mideval Madness, so I'm going to try and take solace in that for the time being. Never expected to see this thread again, that's for sure..

I don't know what material PinballCenter is using, but after seeing Superbands in person at Jared's place, I don't believe that they are polyurethane. They're something else, some other formulation of a harder rubber. Pinball life is selling Superbands, which ARE polyurethane.