i hope he gets well.

Joe Grenuk started this fund on RGP to help Mark with his mounting expenses in case anyone would like to help with a donation:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/browse_thread/thread/260835e639c4788c/4d63e69cb44749c1?hl=en&q=How+'bout+some+help+for+our+Pinball+Pal+Mark+Clayton?+&lnk=ol&

http://rgparchive-removed.com/rgpforum/showthread.php?t=414685

Continuing prayers for his recovery and for strength for his family.

Any updates on Mark ?? I placed an order on 5/19 and have not received any updates. I have tried to e-mail and call with no luck.

I have also ordered from Mark in the past, I have an order open with him right now. Best of luck to him and his loved ones.

To my knowledge orders are not being filled at this time. I made an order before I knew what had happened and upon notice of refund a note was attached explaining why the order was not filled.

I would say hold off orders until we get something saying he is back up and running it really was just him running the business.

man hope he gets better! i had just bookmarked his site a few days ago, best wishes to him if he sees this.

I had placed my order on 5/19 before knowing Mark was sick. It was not until someone replied in another thread saying he was sick, and I found this in my searching.

I had ordered the Stealth Protector - Everything Cabinet and Playfield Package:

One pair of flipper button cabinet protectors
One set of four cabinet leg protectors
One clear start button protector
One sheet of 26 Stealth playfield protectors

with two Full 8 1/2 by 11 inch sheets of uncut Stealth playfield protector material.

I found PBL has the flipper button cab protectors
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1870&parent=0

Anyone know a good place I can get uncut Mylar in sheets ??

http://pinrestore.com/Supplies.html

Thanks ralphwiggum

Anyone have 1 of his 3M DMD anti glare guards for sale? PM me.

Thanks.

My last order from Mark was recently refunded as well.

+1 on the anti glare 3M stuff. If anyone knows a source, I would love to get some. Don't really like the other options out there.

Hope your getting better Mark.

Is that stealth playfield removable Mylar sold anywhere but on his site?

I believe Mylar and the Vinyl he sells are different from what I am reading.

Mylar is DuPont's trademarked name for it's own original polycarbonate formula. Vinyl is very different from polycarbonate.

People are going to start thinking that I'm a shill for you Kim, but.....how can anyone who has tried your glare guards not like them?

Pray Marks getting better.

God Blessings

I had protectors for around the magnets on order with him for an Iron Man. Its needs it.

More importantly-Get well soon.

Is there an update on Mark?
Anyone know how he is doing and if he is sending orders out again?

Prayers he is doing well and recouping as he should.

I did as well. Marcos has some you can order (not sure if it's exactly the same as what Pinball Pal sold).

I just noticed this on his site:

"Due to health issues, Pinball Pal orders have been delayed.

We expect to resume shipping all orders very soon, or if you have placed an order in our on-line store and would prefer a refund, send an email to [email protected] and your order will be canceled and refunded. Please refer to your invoice number if you have any questions about your order(s). We are in catch-up mode with current orders and ask for your patience until we can address the current backlog."

Is this new or has this been there for awhile?

That's been there for a while now. Last I heard, Mark is on the road to recovery, but it is expected to be a long road. I don't suspect that sight will be up anytime soon. All the best to Mark.

Any updates on Mark's recovery?

yes would like to know a s well... Kevin kick in here ok

Yeh, I'm curious too.

Kevin where r u

Yeh I loved his alternative to mylar and have not been able to find a suitable replacement.

If anyone knows what he was using please let me know. I tried vinyl and all kinds of other stuff from Amazon

Wishing Mark the best

http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Self-Adhesive-Laminating-Sheets-73601/dp/B00007E7D2

I talked to mark last week via text. he's still struggling but is getting better.
note his removable mylar is not like the avery stuff, not even close. Avery is 2 mills, mark's is 4 mills, making mark's way better. and yes, i bought his entire inventory of it. but it's not for sale (he didn't have that much left.)

I agree, I love them and have a few dozen of the pre-cut start button and flipper button protectors left, but use the Avery sheets for the shooter lane.

Mark's mylar was better at ruining my NGG playfield by pulling off the insert art when removed. Removable=will remove THE ARTWORK when removed! Just warning those who may still want to use this stuff.

Thanks for the update, progress is good to hear!

Ouch! I know it was advertised as being removable with no problems, but would it have made a difference if you used the freeze spray method as you would with regular mylar?

I've had entire insert artwork lift off even when using freeze spray. It happens because the paint layers have separated from the plastic (or never truly bonded to it as well as to the wood). Whether it's a process issue, long term heat damage, who knows? No kind of mylar with no kind of glue is going to keep that artwork in place. It's going to come up whether you like it or not.

And this is true of pretty much any playfield of any era. I have had it happen to System 11 games and also to an RFM playfield. I came to the conclusion that if a playfield has mylar on it, I'm never taking it off, no matter how bad it looks. It's just too risky.

As soon as I started seeing some art coming off, I tried to freeze the rest off....art still came off. I sorta feel like I would have been better off with regular mylar. The reason I even started to remove the stealth mylar is because it was starting to bubble. Regular mylar wouldn't have done that.

the problem with your NGG wasn't anyone's fault. it was going to come off no matter what you put on or did. i've been using mark's product for years. if the substrate is compromised, then there will be problems. don't blame mark or his product. and freeze spray wouldn't work when used on mark's product. in fact my guess is it would make things worse. mark's mylar is actually not mylar too. i found the original manufacturer. it's rather expensive stuff but it's not mylar it's a vinyl material.

If i knew that to be the case, I wouldn't have used this "removable" product that was advertised as safely removable. I would have used nothing or "real" mylar. Live and learn...I have a better NGG now, so it's all good. I just want people to be aware of using "removable" mylar, especially on WPC'95 playfields. Removal will likely remove art on the inserts. That warning did not come with the product. Nothing wrong with letting people know.

who makes it?

So CFH buys all of the remaining stock and then won't sell it nor will let anyone know where it is manufactured?
Wow.... Just Wow

hope Mark gets better.

meanwhile, here is 8 mil version of the vinyl

http://www.topvinylfilms.com/static-cling-sheet/static-cling-vinyl/

Again if the substrate is compromised, then game over. If you put anything down and tried to remove it, you would have had the same problem. It's not mark's fault. That playfield had a manufacturer defect. There's no fixing that. I've removed marks product from tons of playfields. If the substrate is crap, it will pull up clear, ink, etc. There's no way to prevent it other than use nothing.

Maybe I wasn't clear. Had I known a removable product could remove the insert art, I would have A.) Done nothing. or B.) Used regular mylar, which wouldn't have bubbled like the Stealth Mylar. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm posing a warning...one that I didn't have the fortune of having.