If I want to redo the SM and GnR with LEDs is Cointaker the best bet?
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Hwawonyu said:
Thats the kind of help I need. I assumed a kit had everything. But Pinball life has some particular pieces and Cointaker says kit. Any advice appreciated. That looks MONEY!!
I got my ToM complete lot from CT and I couldn't be happier. Awesome kit and I wouldn't change a thing.
shovelhed said:
My suggestion is to colormatch all your inserts and use coolwhite superbrights in your backbox.
Completely and totally agree with that. I have done the same on two machines, and it is well worth it. Take your time and think things through. Don't use JUST frosted LEDs - use 170 wide angles, super or ultra brights, color changers if appropriate - really look at all your options. It is well worth it!
NewPinOwner said:
Completely and totally agree with that. I have done the same on two machines, and it is well worth it. Take your time and think things through. Don't use JUST frosted LEDs - use 170 wide angles, super or ultra brights, color changers if appropriate - really look at all your options. It is well worth it!
Whoah. thats not me.. good advice but I need easy. Technical dork : o
So I guess I am looking for the best EASY choice.
Hwawonyu said:
Whoah. thats not me.. good advice but I need easy. Technical dork : o
So I guess I am looking for the best EASY choice.
Technical dork-no problem! It's much more artistic then technical.
I know Cointaker has kits made up for most machines. You can buy just backbox, GI, playfield or the whole shooting match. I think Pinball Life does too. I went with a kit my first time around. It's pricey! It takes some experience with LED's to figure out for youself what works best for your tastes.
Hwawonyu said:
Will Cointaker tell me what I need then? Or is Pinball life?
Yep pretty much...Chris and Melissa at Cointaker are great to deal with. They have some awesome kits for SM...I have most of them, but I also improvised some of my own choices in there as well...
Phoebe
spiderman needs a no ghost kit pretty bad. I'd get a cointaker premium kit. I'd get several frosted 44's for the GI in various colors you want to use. My spiderman looks awesome. Unfortunately, pictures don't do LED's justice.
Definitely, for spidey, load up your goblin in green frosted bulbs and put green flasher bulbs either LED or regular green flashers underneath him.
markmon said:
Definitely, for spidey, load up your goblin in green frosted bulbs and put green flasher bulbs either LED or regular green flashers underneath him.
So if I order a premium kit do I need these extra lights as well?
Order from cointaker definitely.
Get your manual and find out how many bulbs youll need and what kinds.
Don't change your flashers. No need to if you ask me. $4.00+ for one light...? No thanks.
It's not highly technical at all. As long as you know what kind of bulbs (555 wedge ended, 44/47 screw and turn bulbs,etc) you need and how many of each = a very nice first project for a new pin owner...Hey...a new...pin..owner....and my name....OMG D: *Twilight Zone music*.
If you do it like NPO suggests you need to note the color of the inserts from your playfield and match that with the bulb list from your manual. Most people suggest you match the insert color with the LED except for yellow inserts where you should use white. Not talking from experience however. I made a similar list for my JM playfield to order LED's but just ordered the kit instead. I hope to have that installed this weekend.
NewPinOwner said:
shovelhed said:My suggestion is to colormatch all your inserts and use coolwhite superbrights in your backbox.
Completely and totally agree with that. I have done the same on two machines, and it is well worth it. Take your time and think things through. Don't use JUST frosted LEDs - use 170 wide angles, super or ultra brights, color changers if appropriate - really look at all your options. It is well worth it!
Has anyone done a one for one cost factor,buying seperately picked Led's vs
CoinTakers premium kits?
romulusx said:
Has anyone done a one for one cost factor,buying seperately picked Led's vs
CoinTakers premium kits?
Here are all the bulbs I bought for JM - NOT including flasher/strobes. Do +/- 5 bulbs just in case I missed one here or there.
25 W555F 555 WHITE Frosted
$0.69 $17.25
15 B555W 555 BLUE 170 Degree Wide Angle
$0.59 $8.85
21 R44W 44/47 RED 170 Degree/Wide
$0.59 $12.39
10 R555W 555 RED 170 Degree Wide Angle
$0.59 $5.90
11 O555W 555 ORANGE 170 Degree Wide Angle
$0.59 $6.49
12 CW555W 555 COOL WHITE 170 Degree Wide Angle
$0.59 $7.08
2 O44W 44/47 ORANGE 170 Degree/Wide
$0.59 $1.18
5 B44W 44/47 BLUE 170 Degree/Wide
$0.59 $2.95
9 G555W 555 GREEN 170 Degree Wide Angle
$0.59 $5.31
8 CW44W 44/47 COOL WHITE 170 Degree/Wide
$0.59 $4.72
2 Y555W 555 YELLOW 170 Degree Wide Angle
$0.59 $1.18
1 Y44W 44/47 YELLOW 170 Degree/Wide
$0.59 $0.59
1 COLOR CHANGER SLOW 555 555 COLOR CHANGER SLOW/FADE
$4.49 $4.49
Total: $78.38 before shipping - $84.53 after
Comparison: my translite is lit with the 25 LEDs for $17.25. Cointaker's kit is $33.95 - keep in mind CT's kit is with Superbrights and those are significantly more expen$ive than the frosted cool white lights I use.
Comparatively speaking, CT kits for the playfield, GI, and translite amount up to $176.85 - vs $78.38. Keep in mind I used frosted and 170 angle LEDs, whereas his kits are Superbrights - BIG difference there in price per unit.
As you can see though, it all turned out just fine :D.
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/johnny-mnemonic-before-and-after-with-leds
The video showcasing the entire pin (with exception of flashers and cybermatrix at the top right) having been converted to LEDs is in the LAST POST at the bottom of the topic page. Enjoy!
Keep in mind, I've done both TFTC and JM with very pleasing results. I cant take credit for JP - dung did it before I acquired the machine. All three of my machines now/are in the process of being nearly 100% converted to LEDs, and I bought no kits.
Not to slam Cointaker - their kits are well thought out and suite their purpose perfectly. I just prefer to "experiment" and "Frankenstein" my pins
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Life is good :).
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