JP What to Price it at?

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    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Well with Nascar supposedly sold (we shall see this time) I am going to sell JP and make a push to get another LOTR then I am done unless we decide to trade fgy or rbion for something down the road.

    Ignore the DMD not being there. I have been trying to fix the psb. I finally gave up and have a rottendog on order as we speak. The machine was fully shopped in the fall. Right afterwards the hv section crapped itself and it has sat since. I still need to get a new midbass speaker before it goes, the original was shot.

    Game has:
    Full set of cliffys.
    Rottendog PSB
    Keychain
    Manual (its falling apart, but all the pages are there)
    GI/CPU are fully led including all the buttons and the lights for the topper as well.
    Shaker Motor
    Topper

    Located in Indianapolis so midwest pricing. Not in a huge rush to sell per say and yes I could come up with a number on my own, but I thought I would ask on here for a change.

    http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb284/yenningcomity/JP/


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Looks like a pretty nice JP... some minor cabinet wear here and there, but overall decent. What kind of shape are the outholes in? Do you have any pics of them before the Cliffy's?

    I would say as it currently sits- 1400-1600. Once fully working, 1500-1800 depending on scoop wear.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Just an FYI... One of your Pterodactyls went astray and is currently hovering over your pop bumpers..


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Scoop wear is really minor. I just cliffy all my games at this point though when I shop them out. Prefer the look and peace of mind, but it does get expensive. No pics of the before since it was shopped out in the fall.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    I agree, depending on condition $1400-1600, maybe as high as $1700 but I think at $1500 it will move quickly, I bought and sold both mine in the $1300-1500 range. I have owned two JP's and really love the game. I would love to own a third someday. Both I owned were really nice examples, I miss JP, fantastic DE game!


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    I listed mine for $1800 and after 2-days accepted an offer of $1500. I would have left it up longer by my ad kept getting flagged. Probably from the buyers offering $1000. I regret selling it and would buy another for $1500-$1600.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    It is an interesting title, it seems like the price has been well established for a long time and really hasn't shifted that much over the years. It is also interesting in that a lot of people (myself included), have owned it multiple times, and miss it once it is gone and are looking for another at some point to replace it. Why the heck do we keep selling it, LOL? I am that way with Fish Tales too. I have owned that three times, and miss it when it is gone (like it is currently).


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Interesting, but really guys I want to know WHEN you sold yours. I don't agree that the price has not changed, it went up from 1k-1200 after my first year in the hobby. When I bought mine last summer an average jp was going for 1300-1400.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    I bought and sold both mine in the last three years. It has been pretty stable in price over the last three years, here at least. If I bought another today, I would expect to pay $1300-1600 depending on condition. The Dinos are prone to problems and if that does not work properly, then you are looking at some work and possibly expensive parts to get it working properly. DE's seem to remain pretty stable, not going up but not down either. List it at $1700-1800 and see what offers you get. It is a great game, one of DE's best games IMO.

    Yes Fish Tales, I need another one, I miss that game too, dam I need more money and more space


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    dung said:

    Interesting, but really guys I want to know WHEN you sold yours. I don't agree that the price has not changed, it went up from 1k-1200 after my first year in the hobby. When I bought mine last summer an average jp was going for 1300-1400.

    Sold my first one 7 years ago for 1100. Sold my second one 1.5 years ago for 1400. The first one was in nicer shape, the second one was similar in condition to yours. (LEDs (not GI though), Cliffys, minor cabinet blemishes, etc.).

    It may have creeped up a little, but not insanely like some of these other titles have. It is still one of my favorite bang for the bucks out there.


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    ralphwiggum said:

    Sold my first one 7 years ago for 1100. Sold my second one 1.5 years ago for 1400. The first one was in nicer shape, the second one was similar in condition to yours. (LEDs (not GI though), Cliffys, minor cabinet blemishes, etc.).

    It may have creeped up a little, but not insanely like some of these other titles have. It is still one of my favorite bang for the bucks out there.

    Did yours have the topper? That alone is 100-150 on ebay. And I agree it hasn't risen insanely, but you might want to do a search. I am not seeing any with asking prices near what you guys are suggesting. Generally speaking I already have an idea of the value, because I know what I can get for it after I strip it down and I know what the extras are worth seperately. LEDs would be saved for LOTR.

    Current Information I can gather is this.
    Mr Pinball Lowest asking price is 1975 high is 2200.

    Ebay Completed Looking at Sold Machines, not asking prices. 1 for 1500 with manual, but bare bones and from a homeowner probably unshopped, 1 for 2100 from a collector, and 1 for 2100 from a business. That is going back to febuary.

    Boston is down so I cannot do the last 12 months.

    On here, one in the market place asking 2200.

    RGParchive search sucks and the new gg is even worse so not much info there. I cannot even get a recent price check to come up.

    Pynball is down.


    donjagra

    Pinball master
    3,000,000 4
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    I miss my old JP. I would love to get another one if I had more space.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Pin_Crazed said:

    List it at $1700-1800 and see what offers you get.

    This


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    In Colorado I saw a few sell for 1500-1800 recently.. With your upgrades I would say 1800 is fair


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    I guess I misunderstood.... You keep saying "asking" prices..... Ask whatever you want ... As far as selling prices go, that is what I was quoting. Both of mine had toppers. I have attached the latest Boston Pinball with the last 3 years (I believe it is 3 years?)

    I don't ever ask more (or is it less?) than I am willing to let it go for. My asking prices is my selling price, and I have never taken longer than about a week to sell a game. I have had far more success aproaching sales this way, because my selling price is typically what people's asking prices end up coming down to. I guess I am just not a fan of the selling game.....


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Also on the Boston Pinball I just clipped- 1493 is the last 3 years of sales (239 machines), and 1439 is the most current sales average (12 machines).... So it has actually gone down a few bucks ...


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Mine both had toppers, LED's and cliffys. I think 2k+ is pretty high, I would not pay that for one but that is me and I have stated I owned two and would own it again, but not at that price. Location has a bearing on price as well. Buying the topper separately is expensive because many of them were never put on or removed at some point. I have seen the toppers sell for $75-100.

    Ebay is Ebay, expect to pay %20-30 more for a game off ebay. From what you have stated about the game, you should be able to get $1600-1800. I would be hard pressed to pay more then $1500-1600 for one myself, but again, I have owned two. These are all just opinions from the people that have responded.

    Either list it higher and go down or list your firm price and stand on it. JP is a very fun game, you should be able to get a fair price for it.


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Sorry, but I am not swayed. You are showing me the average selling price is 1400. This includes project games, unshopped games, and games without the topper. Considering I have been told to expect around 1500 working I find the advice a little unsound. I also find it a little unsound to have my starting price 175 lower than the lowest price I can find and expect to further lower it.

    Not expecting the moon, but what I am finding shows me to disagree.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    It sounds like you already have a very good idea of what you think your machine is worth, Dung.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    dung said:

    This includes project games, unshopped games, and games without the topper

    And also restored games, HUO games, and everything in between. The low was 225 and the high was 4163. It is an average, nothing more or less. Condition was all over the board. This also doesn't take in the Ebay fees and Paypal fees which you have on top of the sale, so figure a few bucks lower to the seller as well.

    I really hope you get whatever you want for the game. I think I misunderstood your post from the beginning though because you kept saying asking price. I just assumed you wanted to know what they actually trade hands at and were going to put a few hundred on top of that.

    If you want top dollar, put it on Ebay, and put it on there soon, as it is tax refund time and you have about 4-5 weeks before sales will start to drop as people start heading outside for their activities.

    Again, not slamming your post, just not understanding what you are getting out of the post (other than what you should "ask"). I personally say you ask $1,600, sell it for $1,600 and not deal with all the time it takes for each tire kicker to play the pricing game with you.....


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    To be honest when I posted I hadn't done any research. when Ralph said that the price hadn't changed much over the years I called bs and started digging. This was reaffirmed when others quoted prices they sold it for in excess of a year. I do have a good idea of what I want for the game at this point.

    If you want to know I will probably list it around 1900 and will budge off that depending on how fast I want to sell. (no hurry to be frank, I will actually get to play it for a bit)


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    ralphwiggum said:

    Again, not slamming your post, just not understanding what you are getting out of the post (other than what you should "ask"). I personally say you ask $1,600, sell it for $1,600 and not deal with all the time it takes for each tire kicker to play the pricing game with you.....

    I wish I could, but it doesn't matter what I list it for I will still get people wanting to haggle. If I list it for 1500 I will get people wanting it for 1300. Of the machines I have sold, only 2 have not tried to get the price lower. I sold a SWT that needed board work, but was otherwise shopped. I asked 1200 when they averaged 2k and still had people trying to explain why it was worth less. For what I was asking you could buy a replacement board and still come out 500 ahead.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    I still stand by the price hasn't changed in a few years and it hasn't (I even provided sales data). I won't argue that people's "asking" prices have skyrocketed though.


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    You stand by what you want to. When I got into the hobby a jp was a 1k pin. After a year it was a 1200-1300 pin. When I bought mine it was around 1400. That was a year ago.

    Part of my problem with your argument is this. It is a game with some expensive parts that are not listed in your data. Topper is 100-150 on ebay. LR gearbox is often bad and is 100. Shop job is usually 50 in parts and 200 in labor if you are paying someone to do it. You never really deduct the full 250 if you buy an unshopped machine, but it does change the price. How much is up to the buyer.

    I could go on, but the gist is that you are pointing at boston and go it is a 1400 game. I point everywhere else and go where is there a 1400 jp for sale? I have no qualms accepting that an unshopped jp is a 1400 dollar machine, but I have a hard time accepting that once you ensure the lr motor works, it has the topper, etc that it is still a 1400 dollar game.

    I will say neither of us is wrong in this. This argument comes up often and TZ is a prime example. A nice clean TZ is anywhere from 4k-5500 depending on mods and condition. An unshopped, faded out tz, with issues is 3k+ depending on condition.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    This JP is in great shape, I paid $1700 for mine up here in Canada-land and it's pretty rough.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Pin_Crazed said:

    I think 2k+ is pretty high, I would not pay that for one but that is me and I have stated I owned two and would own it again, but not at that price. Location has a bearing on price as well. Buying the topper separately is expensive because many of them were never put on or removed at some point. I have seen the toppers sell for $75-100.

    Ebay is Ebay, expect to pay %20-30 more for a game off ebay. From what you have stated about the game, you should be able to get $1600-1800. I would be hard pressed to pay more then $1500-1600 for one myself, but again, I have owned two. These are all just opinions from the people that have responded.

    I have to agree with this. I would be kicking myself pretty hard if I paid $1500 or more. I would pay $1300-$1400, but thats the highest I would go. Plus any shipping fees....that would really be rough.Again this is just my opinion.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    dung said:

    An unshopped, faded out tz, with issues is 3k+ depending on condition.

    If it is fresh off route it is not worth $3K.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Yea, I would pay $1500-1600 if it were nearly perfect or close to perfect, like my last one was.

    It is a fantastic game, one of my personal favorites, if it were made by Williams/Bally, it would be a 2-3k game, maybe more. DE's seem to keep pretty consistent numbers, in my experience only.

    You should have no problem getting close to or what you want for it Dung, it will sell, it is one of the greatest, under rated, Data East games out there. Among the other great features of that game, System shutdown is very rewarding, it is a winner for me!


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Pin_Crazed said:

    it is one of the greatest, under rated, Data East games out there. Among the other great features of that game, System shutdown is very rewarding, it is a winner for me!

    I hear you on that. Only reason I am selling is to fund lotr. I will have rbion, fgy, and lotr. Easy enough to stock parts for them and they are all titles my other half loves so they will get plenty of play.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Is there any way to make the pics bigger? Are those taken with a phone?

    Nevermind... they're larger now.. Guess I need to be logged in.?


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    I'd probably pay $1600 for that JP, so there is probably someone out there willing to pay $100-$300 more. I don't think an ASKING price of $1900 is out of the question.


    dung

    Pinball addict
    1,382,100 2
    2 years, 1 month ago
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    BillinIndiana said:

    Is there any way to make the pics bigger? Are those taken with a phone?

    Nevermind... they're larger now.. Guess I need to be logged in.?

    Pics were taken with my fiance's rebel so please don't say that to her =P

    lpeters82 said:

    I'd probably pay $1600 for that JP, so there is probably someone out there willing to pay $100-$300 more. I don't think an ASKING price of $1900 is out of the question.

    I would probably drop it more, but not 1600 unless I start pulling the leds, those cointaker domes are not cheap.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Id pay 1700 or so fully LEDed. But I couldn't make the drive. Might have to wait for the next expo before I get my next pin.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Jp with all the leds and the topper in great shape is worth 21 to 2200 and you will get it if you ask for it. I have been offered 2200 for mine. 1500 is year ago price.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    i don't know too many people who'd give $2200 for a JP but you only have to sell it once. Shoot for the moon, i say.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    I sold a beat up one this last December for 1,700


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Whatever you do, buy Dung's JP with confidence.. though I didn't buy his Nascar, he was willing to go above and beyond to make the sale happen. Kudos to that.


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    davewth said:

    i don't know too many people who'd give $2200 for a JP but you only have to sell it once. Shoot for the moon, i say.

    +1, $2200 from $1500 a year ago means it has jumped %30 in price. Pretty good for a machine not even ranked in the top 50 on Pinside with a production run of 9008 units. Starting to wish I had my last one back, it was amazing


    2 years, 1 month ago
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    Had a question for you JP owners / previous owners. That is one tall machine! Does anyone happen to have the total height including the topper? Thanks!



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