That's why I call them "cheater rubbers" amongst pinball friends.

Hate putting them on . But really like the feel and look. With your silver bats the clear looks awesome. I will say the red Super bands need to be a darker red they do not look as neat as the other colors

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?!!! That's rediculous. Just got some of these for my ES. Can't wait to get that sucker rebuilt.

This is why I am torn...love the look and longevity of them but not sure since they change gameplay

They made the molds the same size as the more flexible standard flipper rubber. If they could increase the size just a tad they would be easier to install and stay on just as well.

I installed these (Green) on my Big Guns and I haven't had anything that insane happen with mine. I feel like the sticky kinda wears away after being played.

I really don't understand the issue, they aren't very difficult to put on for me....slightly more than the standard rubbers

Agree 100%.

You are in the minority .

I've had that happen to me with normal rubbers.

They are without question easier to use and more "user friendly", I say it's time for a change in the norm for the pinball industry. There is 1% of us that are "professional" tournament players and most of us struggle to even be remotely good at the games regardless of what flipper rubber is used. I say it's time for a change, there is plenty of ways to makes games harder if need be that don't involve flipper rubbers, leveling, outlanes, rules, etc. These things last longer, don't dirty up the games nearly as much if at all, come in way more colors that look better on machines but don't affect the play on them like regular rubbers(black vs. yellow vs. red and the hardness)

JOIN ME, super bands are the FUTURE and will be on every pinball machine!!!! Ok maybe not but I for one prefer them and I need help making that end of flipper catch.

yeah I am not a weakling but it definitely took all my strength to get them on my bats. eventually resorted to using a flathead screwdriver to shoehorn them on. maybe different runs were different sizes?

Oh hell man.. They're on every one of my machines now. I call them cheater rubbers... but I still use them. I can use all the help I can get!

Maybe I'm making stuff up... but it seems that Elwin has expressed his distaste for Super Bands... and I've been curious as to why. Maybe I'm mistaken, however. The industry is small and needs sponsors, so keeping everyone friendly with each other (players/vendors) is more important than bringing this up.

I feel like... between my father, me and my friends probably 75-100 games....

But I feel like you probably had that many games played on T2 one night.

So I couldn't really tell, but I've not had that happen before. BUT the green super bands look great on Big Guns!

Oh I'm with you, I do feel they help me out a little here and there and you get used to them and I put them on all my games. I think someone mentioned it before as well, the more they are used, they feel like they get less and less grip, so I think they get broken in and don't offer as much an advantage

Looking at that I'm going to go out and say that's not all the super bands doing. I see it on games all the time where inserts have an ever so slight lip of being raised/lower than the playfield and cause ball traps really high on the flipper. That ball looks to be sitting about on the edge of the hotdog insert.

-Jim

I was all for them but after getting bit with them at tournaments with the bounce overs, etc I'm starting to think I like the standard ones.

Totaly disagree. Container of hot water, drop them in for 30 seconds, quick towel dry and they slide on like butter.

That's a brilliant idea. They are a bitch to put on, and that is a couple days late for me!

I wish I was smarter than I am. I busted my fingers and knuckles getting mine on.

I wish they'd reformulate to make them bouncier like regular rubbers. Otherwise they're pretty great.

I really like the look of superbands, and they look awesome on your T2. I know that I'm in the minority here, but I just do not like how they play. I took my set off and doubt I will use them again on my games.

It's called Saturn Bands, hardness 1. What I run on all my machines, never had one snap. The hardness 2 is what seemed to have problems. 1 plays like red rubber, but with the extra grip and nice colors and cleaning.

I talked to MARCO at a pinball trade show. Was bitching about what a pain in the ass Super Bands were to get on. I asked the rep. have you tried to boil them in water? And would it f#@k them up. He told me they did boil them and it made no difference what so ever. I bought Them for my STLE done. Sore thumbs. XMEN LE done. Sore thumb tips. I still have SM and The Avengers LE . I will boil some water and see for my self. Hope you are correct.

Well the rep is on crack then because I didnt even boil the water, a Tupperware container and 1:25 in the microwave. Let them sit for a minute, dried them quick and super easy. I tried to install them normally and had no luck, I did three sets after heating in seconds.

Hopefully you are as successful!

Some of the pins at MGC with these on them. I didn't like the way they felt or how they looked. Won't knock anyone who enjoys them but not in my machines.

Good to know. That sounds tempting.

They're priced like Super Bands, what? A couple bucks? Get a handful and see what you think. What's more important than your flippers? Why not figure out the best combo for you? That seems worth a few dollars to try, if they're what you wanted think how worth it that will feel. And if not, eh, nothing really lost.

Tell you one thing, they're one hell of a lot easier to put on, no finger strain or soaking required, go on like regular rubbers, nice and easy.

I just buy them straight from PPS:

http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=PP&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=SAT

I'm broke from buying alt Shadow translites!

OK, some of you guys obviously need help putting on your rubbers. Here is a quick and informative video.

I was expecting to see a banana in that you tube window...

I was hoping to get a video of my wife slipping on the rubber but she declined.

Perfectly done.

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I don't find the Super Bands to be hard to install at all. They're 'harder' to install than traditional rubber, but traditional rubber is stupid easy.

I put them on cold with no pre-stretching. Just put it around the fat-end of the flipper bat, put both index fingers on the inside of the rubber and pull in the direction of the flipper angle and slightly downward until you've stretched it to the end of the flipper and over the tip. Then use the tips of our thumbs to push them down into place.

Takes about 10 seconds each.

The ball doesn't roll back.
Is that supposed to be a good thing?

I get it, extra grip. Ok. Even so it's not for me.

That is exactly how I install them....easy peasy

Good job. Sad this was needed

+1 Chitownpinball, stretch them first
Works for me

That's how I do it...except in reverse. Seems easier to start from the tapered end.

Your wife wears a rubber?

Lets just be glad this didn't go the chewing gum route for a pinsider or two.

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I have not had good luck installing them on the old wider Bally flippers, as a matter of fact they shoot them selves right off the flipper. Any ideas?

The 3/8" high Super-Bands work great on the classic Ballys and Gottliebs.

http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/39-10802-23

Superbands are awesome in my opinion but they are definitely a bitch to put on, the good thing is you shouldn't need to replace for a while once you finally get them on, lol.