that seems kind of drastic. Is that the only way? Cliffy care to weigh in?

I used these they worked great.
Glue Dashes.
http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/uglu-dashes-roll-793380/

You know, I was going to drill anyways for some EL wire. This is a good place to start. Drill baby, drill

I used these for my EL wire they worked great.
Glue Dashes.
http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/uglu-dashes-roll-793380/

+1 on glue dots if they in-fact work well. Way better than drilling and potentially screwing up your ramps.

That's really poor!

I'm only on day 2 of play and there is a divet in my ramp where the ball hit. Hurry Cliffy!

Tron is now off the grid until I get those protectors.

I tacked one of these onto my ramp protector order as well. I'm willing to live with a ball hang-up or two to keep my outhole minty fresh. Thanks Cliff! I'm watching the mail box every day

That just sounds very wrong

Hey man,not as wrong as a beat up outhole LOL!!!

I had to see where this epic thread had run off to and what do you know, I can add something.

If you're drilling your ramps (or any plastic for that matter), best to use a drill bit designed for plastic.

http://www.tapplastics.com/product/supplies_tools/plastic_tools_supplies/tap_plasdrill_bits/161
(link on page gives recommended RPM's for each size)

The dude at the plastic store explained to me how the (metal) plastic bits scrape rather than cut the plastic. They cut much smoother than wood or metal bits. Cleaner holes with no burrs. Great for making your own plastic protectors too. Although they're a little more expensive than regular bits, they'll last a hell of a lot longer. They only have to cut plastic.

Recieved and installed my protectors. Thanks Cliffy!

Me want me cliffy's

Got mine today! Thanks Cliff.

I installed the Flynn hole protector right away. I really appreciated the little piece of Mylar to help prevent hang-ups.
Now I'm just waiting for my LE ramps from PBL to come in next week for my EL wire mod. The ramp protectors will go on those.

Fantastic!

Ouchhh! I have older games with far less ramp damage.

What are the LE ramps from PBL ??
Where did you get your EL wire mod ??

Ramps
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2422&parent=294
EL wire
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/project-tron-pro/page/4

I used Glue Dashes to hold my EL wires it has been working fine for a few weeks so far.
UGlu dashes partnumber: MTR650
http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/uglu-dashes-roll-793380/

Not as intrusive tie wraps.

asnatlas, in the EL wire thread that pinballlooking mentions above, on the last page of the thread coasterguy has a final detailed set of instructions to do his project. If you order your el wire from coolight.com, you can copy & paste his instructions for coolight to arrange all the wiring and parts together just as you need them. Well thought out by coasterguy. Easy to install once you get it.

I figured (like CoasterGuy) that I would rather spend a few bucks more and buy pre-drilled LE ramps so I don't have to modify my stock pro ramps.
Terry at Pinball Life only shows the left ramp on his site, but if you order 2 (and send him a note) he actually has the right one as well.

As pointed out above, you can get EL wire from coolwire.com. CoasterGuy outlines exactly what to order. I had them alter the setup a bit for me so that I could individually control each wire using a PIG. When it arrives, I'll just plug the wire directly into that and I can trigger it with lamps or switches so its more interactive. I spent the last week talking to eh guys at coolight and they were able to wire 3-pin molex connectors to the inverter's power so that each inverter can easily be plugged right into one of the 4 outputs on the PIG.

http://www.dkpinball.com/DKWP/?page_id=181

Kim from Kimball's Pinballs is also working on a cool variation that is sound controlled and it also integrates pretty well with the game. I don't think he's selling them yet.

Lastly, you can possibly hold out until ecurtz is done experimenting with his fiber optic wire mod. It will be waaaay more expensive, but the look will be much more similar to the LE, and it will have similar color changing properties.
I suspect I may be pretty happy with the dedicated orange and blue wire for now.

Sorry to get off-topic.
The Cliffy's are GREAT!!!

Awesome, thanks for all the info guys

I have a TRON machine coming in a few weeks and would love to get the ramps "updated". That was the main thing I loved about the TRON LE Machine.

Thanks CLiff!! Got mine the other day. Now where did I put that drill bit ment for plastics??

Installed mine over the weekend and they are perfect! pretty easy to install on the pro. I also changed out my flipper rubber to orange and man it looks bad ass! goes great with the lighting and seems to have a good glow to it with the cointaker frosted blues.

heh nimble.... i also ordered the ramp protectors and the scoop too. i installed the ramp protectors and they are awesome (thanks cliff).

just curious how the install is on the scoop protector and are there many hang ups? im thinking protecting the hole is > than a few random ball hangups

Great job Cliffy! I just installed the protectors, and they look and work great! Keep up the good work!

Todd

Here Here. I am currently refusing to let anyone play my machine until my protectors are in.

I had some old protectors from another pin and used those until the better looking ones came in from cliffy.
Just use some glue Dashes to attach them.

I might have a bunch of people over next week to play and was hoping to get mine by then. Im nervous.

Patiently waiting for my turn to come around....

The product is UGlu Dashes Roll MTR650

Got 'em. Thanks Cliffy.

Nice and clean idea for those who don't want to drill.

They are Acid-Free and work well.
I should have called them Glue Dashes I corrected my other post.
Because the brand glue dots do not work at all.

But UGlu Dashes Roll Part Number:MTR650 these are great!

OK, I installed my ramp protectors this week and Ill say...the soldering iron option works amazingly well. I used a pointed bit and lined up the ramp protector and plunged in the hole ever so gently and slowly. I kept the hole just tiny enough that the zip tie fit in tightly. It works, and it looks flawless and its my recommended technique for this.

The glue dashes Ill probably check out once I settle on a EL wire solution.

Cliffy, any updates on how far down the wait list you've made it? Just don't want to email you every week if you're still working on it

Not to jump the gun or anything . . . but anyone know when Cliffy will open the wait list for XMen?

to Cliffy & others, a small feedback :

one little thing to say about the protectors & how they "fit" compare to the original gameplay

before, on the left ramp, when i was to weak to climb it, the back ball was OK, with only few drains right in the middle

now, with the (left side) protector, it didnt match the small curve/angle of the ramp, as the metal is of course perfectly flat, and quite always, back ball on that ramp = middle drain

what i did : just lightly curve the protector to match the ramp curve (simple as that huh), and the gamplay is back as before...

this happend on MY pinball, with MY settings
than, take this for information, and of course dont blame me if you damage your protector

a good day to evbd

yep, when i said left ramp, its the left entry to the right ramp...

++

Cliffy,

I finally got all of your ramp protectors and your "new" scoop protector installed...they work flawlessly!!! No hangups at all on the scoop and I don't cringe everytime I try and hit a ramp shot hoping the thing won't shatter!!! Great stuff!!! Thanks again!!!

Rick

Arggggggggh, that's what I feared. I never heard back from ya so I don't have mine

You're the best at what you do so I wear my speshul badge with pride!

Same! Nice work, Cliffy.

Ryan Claytor
Elephant Eater Comics
http://www.ElephantEater.com

Okay, my Cliffy order came with what looks to be a scoop protector and it says Version 2 on the little baggie. I saw the older thread the issue with the Cliffy scoop protector was it had ball hang ups? Was that issue solved with Version 2 or should I install the Mantis?

Pinball_is_Great and I are messing around on my Tron now so I'm trying to figure out if we should install the Mantis protector of the Version 2 Cliffy...I have both here. Thanks.

Version 2 fixes the ball hangups. I have it installed in my Tron Pro and love it!!!

We got it installed. Adding a few of the other add ons then we shall smack a few balls around on it and see how it goes.