(Topic ID: 88462)

Are these slo-blo fuses?

By Chaos

10 years ago


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    #1 10 years ago

    Hi,
    Just ordered a bunch of slow blow fuses to keep as spares for my pins, and when they arrived, instead of the typical
    "spring type coil" inside, they have a thin wire with a bunch of dots on it inside.
    The markings aren't giving it away, nothing obvious I can read. So I just wanted to ask if fuses like the ones in the pic below are in fact slow blow, and are they suitable to replace regular slow blow fuses in my pins?

    Thanks,
    Chaos

    http://www.futurlec.com/Pictures/Fuse_6x30.jpg

    #2 10 years ago

    I was told that the filament doesn't matter. This was by someone at Autozone so take it for what it is worth.

    #3 10 years ago

    What are the markings on the end caps? AGC, MDL....

    #4 10 years ago

    Go by the markings:

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tech-slow-blow-vs-mdl-fuses#post-1417666

    There are very few fuses these days that are not made by either Littelfuse or Bussmann and if they aren't branded as such, chances are it was made by one of them anyway and will contain the appropriate markings.

    viperrwk

    #5 10 years ago

    The type of fuse pictured there is time delay. I think it blows faster than "slo blo". Slow blow ones usually have a coil in them. Time delay have the blobs on the filament (whats pictured).

    #6 10 years ago

    Go to www.actionpinball.com they have fuse kits for specific games. I bought the kit for my HS, has every fuse the game has. They are excellent on rubber ring kits for specific games as well.

    #7 10 years ago

    If it had AGC or MDL on it, I wouldn't need to ask about these

    No..these have to be more obscure.
    All the markings: PS over E
    ATE
    UL in a circle
    SA in a "C" shape
    Then CQ

    See why it was confusing to me?

    However, thanks for the link viperrwk. That led me to this link: http://www.flippers.com/fuses.html
    Which shows these fuses as ATE made by Ferraz-Shawmut, and calls them time delay. Seems they are similar to Slow Blow. I guess I am ok using them. I hope.

    Chaos

    #8 10 years ago
    Quoted from Chaos:

    If it had AGC or MDL on it, I wouldn't need to ask about these
    No..these have to be more obscure.All the markings: PS over EATEUL in a circleSA in a "C" shapeThen CQ
    See why it was confusing to me?
    However, thanks for the link viperrwk. That led me to this link: http://www.flippers.com/fuses.htmlWhich shows these fuses as ATE made by Ferraz-Shawmut, and calls them time delay. Seems they are similar to Slow Blow. I guess I am ok using them. I hope.
    Chaos

    They are safe to use in place of "slo blo" but may go open faster than they should in certain instances.

    The solenoid fuse in a WMS sys6 game like FirewPower needs slo blo and not time delay. I was replacing 2.5a time delay fuses once every couple months until i put in an actual slo blow that hasn't popped since.

    #9 10 years ago

    Thanks guys. Not always easy getting the exact stuff locally here in SA, and ordering from USA usually means I spend $100 when wanting to buy $5 worth of parts.
    I have bought some fuses from Action Pinball, but wanted to have some spares as backup.
    I guess these will do in a pinch, but will stick with classic Slo Blo where I can.

    Chaos

    #10 10 years ago
    Quoted from Chaos:

    Thanks guys. Not always easy getting the exact stuff locally here in SA, and ordering from USA usually means I spend $100 when wanting to buy $5 worth of parts.I have bought some fuses from Action Pinball, but wanted to have some spares as backup.I guess these will do in a pinch, but will stick with classic Slo Blo where I can.
    Chaos

    Try China sellers like on ebay, alibaba..... some how they can ship anywhere in the world cheap.

    #11 10 years ago

    The phrase "Slo Blo" is copyrighted by Littelfuse. The Littelfuse 313 "slo blo" is actually a simple time delay single element fuse. And AFAIK Littelfuse doesn't make a dual element time delay fuse. Bussmann technically can't sell a "slo-blo" fuse. They sell either a "time delay" (MDL) or "dual element time delay" (MDQ) fuse. Dual element fuses consist of a short circuit strip and a soldered joint spring connection. During overload conditions the soldered joint gets hot enough to melt and the spring shears the junction loose. Under short circuit conditions, the short circuit element operates to open the circuit. All dual-element fuses are considered to be time delay but not all time delay fuses are dual-element. And not everyone makes both types of time delay fuses.

    Honestly, if you look at the time/current curves for single element and dual element time delay fuses you will see minor differences and be hard pressed to choose one over the other.

    http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/dam/public/bussmann/Electrical/Resources/product-datasheets-a/Bus_Ele_DS_2044_MDQ_MDQ-V.pdf

    http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/dam/public/bussmann/Electrical/Resources/product-datasheets-a/Bus_Ele_DS_2004_MDL_MDL-V.pdf

    In the case Andrew cited above, I've replaced a 2.5A single element time delay fuse with a 3A single element time delay fuse with no ill effects.

    viperrwk

    #12 10 years ago
    Quoted from viperrwk:

    In the case Andrew cited above, I've replaced a 2.5A single element time delay fuse with a 3A single element time delay fuse with no ill effects.
    viperrwk

    I must have my pop bumpers adjusted too perfectly =P

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