This is not directed towards any one person here in this thread or on Pinside, so I'm just going to flat-out say it: People need to get over this "Oh mmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaannn, it's made by Daitah EEEEEEASSSSSSTTTT" crap.
Where does this huge chubby for B/W come from? Is it the fact that all the "oo oo oo gimmie gimmie gimmie A-Title!!!" games are all B/W ...? Or is it because almost everyone's first game is a B/W..? I'm only 3 months into this hobby so maybe I've missed it - but really - the bashing of DE just because it says "Data East" on it is so silly...
I'm serious dude, I'm going on 2 DE's/1 Sega (XF when it gets here), and 1 B/W - and my DE's have been pretty darn good. Sure, I've had to adjust a switch in the ball trough here or a switch in the JP bunkers there or change - heaven forbid - one fuse in TFTC. My JM is solid but not all perfect either - I would flat-out say my DE's have stood well with JM so far. Sure, the DE's may have a tendency to break a bit more than B/W, but for crying out loud if my DE's go down a total of twice a year versus once for B/W - is the DE hate REALLY justified...?
DE's are PRETTY darn solid lil' machines. While quality may be better than DEs, B/W sure as heck aren't bullet proof - 3 of their "A-list titles": TZ, TAF, and STTNG and even one of their B-list titles BSD have a decent reputation for troubles. STTNG: optos up the wazoo. TAF: 1 word: magnets. TZ: *says in a British accent* CLOCK. And BSD: optos and magnets for the myst ball.
So, both DE's and B/W's have problems - thing is - DE's are way cheaper than B/W. With the exception of BSD, all three B/W titles I've mentioned thwart JP, TFTC, and XF - and TFTC is arguably one of DE's "best games" with JP not being too far behind.
Break this down a bit using Boston Pinball as a quick reference (which there's NO WAY these prices are up-to-date :
Avg price of all 4: $2581.25
Avg price of all 5: $1787, or of DE's highest 4 to be fair with sample size: $1926.75
So: the average price difference between sample size B/W(4) - DE(4) = $654.50 - and I didn't even compare "top shelf games B/W" vs "top shelf games DE" - imagine if I compared MM, AFM, and TAF against TFTC, Tommy, and GNR - that avg price difference would probably quadruple.
So, what are B/W collectors paying $654+ for....? B/Ws tend to break down just as DE. I just don't get not only paying more for B/Ws but also selling "because it says 'Data East' on it" mentality. Seriously.....
On a lighter note, thank you to all who "buy only B/W because all the cool people do" or "I only buy B/W because they're the Mercedes of pins and everything else is crap" - thank you - you have helped me keep the cost of buying my DE/Sega games WAY down :).
Life is Good :).