White Water (Williams, 1993)

White Water

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This machine got 803 approved ratings and currently scores 8.318 out of 10 points.

This ranks this machine #16 in the Pinside Ranking.

8.318

Score breakdown in the 4 main categories:

Game design: 8.539

Artwork: 8.239

Sounds/Music: 7.585

Other Aspects: 8.602



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8.320

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“The more I play it, the more I like it! Great flow. Great rules. Unusual layout. With LEDs it looks amazing now.”

  • leaffan67 currently owns this game.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “I'm an outdoors type of guy so the theme is an instant win with me. Love the full translite artwork with the waterfall effect on the topper. Call outs are great and I love when he yells "WHITE WATER" just before multi ball. Music is decent but extra props for how it ramps up during gameplay. Playfield is just a masterpiece of plastic moldings. From the awesome Insanity Falls ramp to the boulder bumper caps, just jamb packed. Rules can be a little confusing with the Vacation Planner stuff but achieving multi ball and geting rafts is pretty straight forward. For me, this is Nordman's best.”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review
  • dtown

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    “All time classic...been in collection for 13 years and not going anywhere -- ever!”

  • freakandgeek currently owns this game.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Cool, fun game. This game can be quite drainy, but don't let that deceive you. This game is still fun and has plenty of cool features, like Bigfoot. Deserves its good rating, in my opinion.”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Whitewater has a great layout, unlike no other. The combination of ramps, shots and goals makes this game one you want to keep coming back for more. A true classic that stands the test of time.”

  • Gnatty has owned this game in the past.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Color DMD really makes this game pop. Fun Fun Fun...”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Just a great, fun game. I always go back to it. It has some great shots, good music, grat layout, lots of ramps. I really like it. It's a keeper.”

  • s2k4ary currently owns this game.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “WH20 is AWESOME. The music isn't my fav, but many out there adore it.

    The scoring is perfect, the theme beautiful, and the fun factor incredibly high. I wished they would have utilized Bigfoot better, but he's a cool looking dude on the playfield. Super fun game.”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “the best pinball”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “This machine is just 100% pure fun. Easy to understand. Great flow. Enormous Re-playability. The most rewarding goals are challenging but very satisfying, they include 1. Getting the Vacation Jackpot (one of the best wizard goals there is), 2. Getting 3 fast jackpots with 5 times the fun running. 3. Welcome to wet Willie's mode and 4. Stealing the camera from Big-foot's cave among many other fun objectives.”

  • karl currently owns this game.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “A must have pin. Just plain fun.”

  • MSN22 currently owns this game.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Overall, fun to play...just got kind of predictable after awhile......ramp action cool...nice for a change, but don't think I'd own one...”


    “Decent pin. Hard to follow the ball at times because it gets hidden behind the playfield plastics.”


    “WHITE WATER! White Water was the first pin I bought several years ago and it started the obsession. White Water is still a family favorite. The theme is so well integrated into the feel of the game. Other than the whirlpool ramp the game never slows down, but like other early 90's Williams you have to continually be thinking on your feet. How can I setup a 5X playfield and the white water multiball together? Do I want to take the advance raft now or wait until collecting a raft is harder and it'll do me more good? Do I risk trying for the extra ball or not? If my score is higher will Mystery Canyon give me Class VI river? Do I take the multiball now or do I try to avoid triggering it in the hopes of making it to Vacation Planner and saving my locks?

    I wasn't even sure of the theme when I bought the machine especially given the negatives some folks have pointed out with the music, but I guess I'm abnormal as it has grown on me after hundreds of games. The fact that each ball gets its own variation on the music and it gets more frantic as you go. The various "hidden" modes like camera craze, achieved after hitting big foot's cave three times, are just hysterical especially when you get the cows. In all the time I've had White Water with at least four people regularly playing it there have only been two games that have achieved Vacation Planner, many many have come so close. As others have commented, the person who got the first Vacation Planner thought he broke the machine as it shut down and then went completely crazy. Unlike "Lost in the Zone" or "Final Frontier" that we see on a regular basis Vacation Planner is a true rarity which makes White Water a real challenge to complete and leaves you wanting for just one more try at it.

    I did replace all the bulbs with cointaker superbrite LEDs and they really dressed up the inserts especially the arrows on the ramps and lock lights. That is important given that the boulder garden loop arrow is prety well hidden on the right side. I left the original 194's in the topper which has to be one of the greatest toppers in pinball. Normally, I'm not a huge topper person, but the lights creating the flowing water effect is amazing. I also replaced all the ramps. If you get one of these I highly recommend the ramp guards that go behind the lock targets. My original ramps were completely smashed behind the lock targets and with the new ramps and guards I haven't seen any damage at all.

    I typically will take all the ramps out, strip the machine down to the playfield and rewax every year. This keeps the game play lighting fast and combo shots satisfying. If there is a negative on this machine it has to be maintenance. Mechanically, I really haven't had anything go wrong, but to clean and wax the loops requires a lot of parts to come out that are not easy to remove. I would much rather strip my STTNG, RFM, TZ, W?D, or CFTBL any day. It takes me a good solid full day to 1.5 days of work to take the machine apart, clean the playfield, put a couple of coats of wax on and reasseemble. I can do the same on my other machines in about half a day or less in the case of RFM.

    In summary, White Water is a fabulous game. I think if pressed I would still keep my TZ over it, but it's still a machine that I'm never planning on selling. Even after many, many games it's still challenging. The ruleset is simply enough that you can tell a guest to "aim for the flashing arrows", but for a more experienced player there are tons of strategies to employ. It's theme seems to be univerally enjoyable. During holiday parties RFM, CFTBL, and WH20 are generally the most popular machines in the house. Unfortunately, the secret seems to be out as I see these machines fetching more and more these days.”

  • n4297m currently owns this game.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “I love wh20 but it hates me it's fast fun challenging and just one of the games which is too fast for me and same with f14”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Enjoyed this game so much I rolled the dice on a CL listing far enough away I had to have it shipped to me.”

  • waldo34 currently owns this game.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “This is a fun game at first- lots of gimmicks and ramps. I just feel that it lacks depth and becomes pretty average once you master the ramp shots which doesn't take long.”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Love me some ramps!!!!!!”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Deep great game. Fast and really good ramp shots. Skill based game where you have to plan your shots in order to acheive the vacation jackpot. Overall great pinball.”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Great game, love the flow and the many ramps!”

  • dezaanster currently owns this game.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “One of my favorite pins for sure.”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “Fun pin to play, easy to get started, hard to master. Managing multiball and being able to hit shots for jackpots is key (though I suppose that's true for most any game). Not traditionally considered an "A" by most, but it is for me.”

  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “This is a great one to own for a few years. Layout, artwork and rules are great and it's just a fun, fun pin. Audio quality however is fairly low quality, especially when you get pins with DCS and SAM sound into your collection. If the audio was redone using modern technology, this game would be a top 20 pin for sure.”

  • swampfire has owned this game in the past.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “I think Wh2O is a fun game but don't quite get all the fuss over it lately. It is a solid B title to me but I might not be in the majority any more in my thinking. Fun and good "flow" pardon the pun. I would probably still own mine if it had a nicer playfield. It's gotten so popular lately, I'm afraid that ship has sailed.”

  • John_in_NC has owned this game in the past.
  • 1 Pinsider starred this rating review

  • “I like to play it, just dont love it, the upper portion of the playfield is cool but gets old for me, but not somthing Id pay an asking price to bring home, Ill pump quarters to it on location tho... Im probably in the minority here...”



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